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I originally worked out my own way of visualising (and hearing) the guitar neck around a framework based on 5 pentatonic shapes, which I add to, combine and modify to create scales/arpeggios/chords. I only heard about the CAGED system much later and I chose align my thinking with a CAGED framework, as it was a common language point of reference.
I'm sure users of a CAGED framework for visualising and hearing things have variations on the way they use it. But at least there's a common point of reference. So, if someone describes something in terms of CAGED, I can relate to (and understand) what they're saying, even if my way of thinking about it might be slightly different.
Do I have the record for fitting the maximum number of 'thanks' in one sentence?
i) doing more sight reading, so really having to get the notes on the neck down
ii) exploring some older jazz styles -- gypsy jazz and swing, mostly -- and beginning to think in terms of relating everything to chords, either as arpeggios, or as decoration (chromatic approach notes, chord extensions), rather than thinking in terms of scales/modes.
Doing ii) basically unlocked CAGED for me in a way that just doing exercises or attempting to learn in isolation didn't. I still don't really think of it was 5 distinct shapes, though. It's more 3 main shapes for me (C, A, E) and I think of the other two as basically extensions/connections between those.
more than happy to elaborate if anyone wants
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I like both 3nps and caged. In fact you can easily shoehorn 3nps onto caged anyway (2 positions on e and a shapes).
I found caged to be very good for learning notes, octaves, chord shapes and playing through changes. 3 nps to be good for speed and legato techniques, playing modal.
Both valid. Both worth learning.
I've sorted it now. Thanks for pointing it out. I must have made an edit to my post and not reinserted the link.
http://www.thefretboard.co.uk/discussion/comment/1756122/#Comment_1756122
I have to confess the numbering system for pentatonic shapes confuses me a bit.
For example, in my mind, a C major pentatonic shape is exactly the same shape/pattern as an A minor pentatonic shape, but with a different root note, so it seems illogical to give it a different shape number. I view (and name) major and minor pentatonics in terms of the chord shape (major or minor) that I can visualise within the pattern.
The pentatonic scales are in the same order but the caged shapes order has changed.
To confuse myself even more i see the g and E shape are relative major and minor as are the C and A. lol.
to recap i use shape 1 as a g shape caged when playing major to visualise the C major triad and I use shape 1 as an Em shape caged to visualise the minor triads. shape 1 being the first shape i learned.
A good dvd i would recommend is Fretboard Navigation volume 2 . lick library jamie Humphries. He covers Caged and 3 note per string etc.
I tend to view it from Major and relative minor(no idea why). Maybe that is making it more confusing for myself. Everything i do i see as being built from the pentatonic framework etc as you described. I add the 2nds and 6ths etc to the scale to make the modes. I make 3 note triads 135 starting from the root and play the diatonic chord arpeggios. This gives me the full scale shape which i can recognise and helps to play in the one position using that pattern.
There's more than one way of looking at these things. When I'm playing the C minor pentatonics I could equally think of it as playing Eb major pentatonics against C (where C minor is the relative minor of Eb), but I'd be using C as the root note.
I'm sure that when people say they're using CAGED they might be using a similar thought process but approaching things with slightly different perspectives. I see that as a positive thing as it's open to how you choose to use it creatively.