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The cost of shipping it back, resubmitting the paperwork, storing it while the paperwork is approved, and then shipping it again will be thousands. I don't imagine they would do it a second time.
Out of interest, why can't they just plant more rosewood trees? And farm them sustainably? How much rosewood does the guitar industry need?
What the industry could do is switch to another much more sustainable hardwood, and dye it if necessary.
However a lot of guitarists will be looking for that inspiring classic tone or whatever it's being called this week and turn their noses up at anything but the real deal?
Any ivory pre 1947 is legal to deal in.
Brazilian Rosewood pre-1992 is in almost the same boat.
Sending them back is another waste of resources.
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I doubt there will be any more investment in making it truly sustainable
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Who "demanded" these guitars in the first place? Surely most of these would sit in a warehouse, eventually get sold on to dealers, languish on pegs for a surprising amount of time and then be sold at a discount covered in dust.
The kind of opportunistic consumerism that creates value in inexpensive Chinese-made instruments is sort of the problem in the first place, even if musical instruments are only a very very small part of the overall picture.
Destruction serves no purpose and will only cause the same amount of rosewood to be logged again, as well as wasting that which already has been.
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I'm not a fan of how a lot of all this has been implemented but again, I kinda get why they have to do what they are doing.
Rosewood can be sustainable if it's plantation grown.
For me, the complete ban on Brazilian Rosewood is counter productive as well. If that could be sold legally with the correct paperwork, then there would a huge incentive to grow it on plantations.
There would need to be some safeguards to make sure that it was plantation grown stuff, and not chopped down rain forest. Having said that, in places the rain forest is just being chopped down and burnt for farmland, so CITES is really not working. You have removed the incentive to preserve the species, but you aren't protecting the rain forest either.
When you get to the point that you can't sell a pre-CBS Strat because you don't have a 50 year old receipt, it is getting ridiculous.
The whole thing needs to be looked at urgently.
Also, once forests have been clearcut for farms, trees won't grow there anymore... you can't replant...
http://www.prsguitars.com/news/story/prs_guitars_partners_with_atlantic_forest_reforestation_program_in_brazil
Destroying the guitars, as ICBM outlined, is worse for the environment overall, as all the production and shipping carbon emissions willbe duplicated.
Common sense required here; the wood is either ok to use or not. If it's ok to use, why cause further demand on scarce resources through the effort to reduce demand on scarce resources?
something they do in other countries and for large importers over here I think. Then yes you would get xxx knocked off your status and time to correct.
here it’s all or nothing when they want it to be.
it may be Selectron has a poor import paperwork record and it has happened before. I am just totally surmising here and in no way know or implying that. I have seen customs in the past just get jacked off with an importer from poor paperwork permits etc and they give them a sharp shock to force them to get their house in order.
We are guessing at a lot of facts here.
Again I am not sure why anyone in the guitar industry importers could not be aware of what they needed to have in the way of permits
We are in discussion with UK authorities about what to do here and I have come across some legislation that might clarify some points relating to moving instruments from one place to another as part of an international relocation.
From:
http://ec.europa.eu/environment/cites/pdf/cop17/implementation_of_cites_cop17_listing_of_rosewood_clean.pdf
So, in my specific case I probably do not need to provide Cities documentation for instruments with rosewood on them as I am taking instruments that are personal or household objects.
I am also well under the 10kg weight limit, which is mentioned here:
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When carried by a third-party (ie, sent as freight), I can't see any such exemption for the permits...
The valuable rosewood guitars are indeed now being hand carried- or at least going as part of our air shipment.
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