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The Spanish military setup concentration camps in Cuba during the Ten Years' War (1868–78) and the Cuban War for Independence (1895–98), and similar camps set up by the United States during the Philippine–American War (1899–1902).
The British setup concentration camps in 1901 during the second Boer War.
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Flags can fuck right off.
But that doesn't fit the modern rhetoric.
It makes the whole patriotism very difficult, especially when at a public event and they play the American anthem. I'll stand for the US anthem, but I don't put my hand on my heart. I'm always conscious it just takes one nutter in the crowd to notice it and take offence. Makes me want to talk loudly in my best posh English accent.
Flags can indeed fuck right off.
Either way its just an excuse to form a group and kill other groups : )
Did conditions not improve only due to pressure from the likes of Emily Hobhouse?
That's the way I recall it.
Didn't help the 10% much, though.
Boswell tells us that Samuel Johnson made this famous pronouncement that patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel on the evening of April 7, 1775. He doesn't provide any context for how the remark arose, so we don't really know for sure what was on Johnson's mind at the time.
However, Boswell assures us that Johnson was not indicting patriotism in general, only false patriotism.
For more of Samuel Johnson's thoughts on patriotism in general, go to the patriotism page.
For a discussion on a possible false patriot who Johnson might have been thinking of, see this discussion
Yes, people died in the war through incompetence and inexperience, and of course the Boer attacks. That doesn't mean that death was the purpose of the camp like it was with those camps in Germany, the USSR, the Balkan's etc. They are completely different, and it is a bit disrespectful to those who did die in those camps in WW2 onwards, to pretend that their murder/extermination was anything other than that.
And concerns were raised in Parliament before Emily Hobhouse raised them (not sure why that makes any difference)?
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While it’d be fair to argue that America and Spain went some way to creating a form of concentration camp (in name, at least), it was the British who invented actual death camps.
The Nazis had labor camps, concentration camps and death camps. Auschwitz was a death camp, Dachau was a concentration camp. The death rate at the British concentration camps for native Africans was closer to that of Auschwitz, that of their Boer prisoners a bit lower, and Dachau, far, far lower than that.
To put this in perspective, the Japanese, as horrifically as they treated their prisoners of war (and it was horrific, I had an uncle who didn't come back from Burma), they treated those prisoners better than the British treated the Boers (including women and children) based on their percentages of those who died in the camps over the given period.
What we did to the Africans from Boer areas is unspeakably worse, up to the levels of deaths seen at the Nanking Massacre (the Japanese again - see, it's not all us!) The British government of the time appeared to actively want people to suffer. The Boers have actually saved samples of the poisoned flour and flour with ground glass in it given to the starving Boers in the Death Camps.
But, like I said before, it's not all one-way. Patriotism is stupid because for everything we've done that we should be proud of, there's something that we should be ashamed of ...and vice-versa. So, we might have invented concentration camps - but, on the other hand, we also gave the world... er... I dunno... How about... um... Adele!
I think you got the wrong end of the stick. I was talking about the political rehabilitation of Stalin himself in modern Russia.
The rolling back of the destalinisation initiated by Kruschev. Putin himself has hinted at renaming Volgograd as Stalingrad again. All in the name of a modern Russian nationalism.
Ironic really as Stalin was a Georgian. In the early days fellow Bolsheviks were dismissive of his origins and took the piss out of his broad Georgian accent.
Thirteen ships were sunk while transporting 15,712 POWs from South East Asia to Japan. Some of the ships sunk had no survivors. An estimated 10,720 prisoners died on these unmarked Hell Ships on the way to Japan.
Not sure where you get your ideas from but they don't stand up to scrutiny.
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You are taking a single statistic, and using it to compare different camps created in different eras for different reasons, and saying, "oh look, the are the same!"
Humans are just nasty, murderous creatures whenever there's an argument about territory, resources, race, religion or one of the other things we constantly fight about.
To be fair, we're probably very slowly getting more civilised, although it doesn't take a lot for the mask to slip.
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Mainly though, I'm annoyed that the huge lengths I went to, to make an Adele joke, were overshadowed by my facts being all over the place...
I'm sticking well-and-truly to my original assertion that Patriotism is horse shit though!
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