the official "theFB Mixing Challenge"....

poopot · July 2018

Brocco said:

As a mixing virgin I am feeling more than a little out of my depth!

Ask away!... be good to get some discussion going!.

Brocco · July 2018

Are there any restrictions regarding the degree to which the elements provided can be changed or omitted? I had played around in GB with levels and assigned amps to the guitars and bass and was going to leave it there. The first mix to be posted and the comments so far make me think that I need to take a more radical approach, but I have little idea how to technically achieve that!

poopot · July 2018

Brocco said:

Are there any restrictions regarding the degree to which the elements provided can be changed or omitted? I had played around in GB with levels and assigned amps to the guitars and bass and was going to leave it there. The first mix to be posted and the comments so far make me think that I need to take a more radical approach, but I have little idea how to technically achieve that!

If you want to run the guitars through the GB amps go for it.

my mix was done by just basic panning, levels, compression and eq. Add in a little reverb here and there and it’s done.

You want each element to sit in its own space on the stereo spectrum, if everything is set up the middle, each track will stamp over the next and it will sound muddy for example.

in addition to the panning you have to consider EQ on each track for the same reason. The pic below will give you a rough idea of where stuff resides on the frequency spectrum.

There are other tricks you can use. The drum overheads have picked up pretty much everything in the room. I wanted just the high end of the drums (cymbals essential) so I used a channel eq and cut all of the frequencies below 800hz or so, this leaves just a "sizzle" to the overheads, each OH track has been duplicated and the second is heavily compressed and mixed in just a little to add a bit of body (parallel compression).

parallel compression was used on the kick to give it a bit of oomph.

I try to get the panning sorted, then levels, then EQ etc...

Just to add, Im very much a beginner at this as well!.

Brocco · July 2018

Many thanks, @poopot, very helpful.

spark240 · July 2018

poopot said:

Calling @spark240 and @IMC1980 you up for another?

Yep...sorry, I’m away this week.....I’ll have a go at the weekend if you mail me the files .

spark240 · July 2018

Brocco said:

As a mixing virgin I am feeling more than a little out of my depth!

On the contrary dude, Every mix challenge is a learning curve....get stuck in !

poopot · July 2018

spark240 said:

poopot said:

Calling @spark240 and @IMC1980 you up for another?

Yep...sorry, I’m away this week.....I’ll have a go at the weekend if you mail me the files .

Sent!...

spark240 · July 2018

Tracks loaded and V1 done....some tweaks tomorrow then upload ...

spark240 · July 2018

So....heres my effort..Immusing Studio One V4

Started with drums, Stripped all silence from Kick and snare, some in auto some manually, treated both with Shepps Omni and S1 Fat channel, pus mixverb on the snare.

Toms, stripped all silence, plus manual editing, Omni channel and Fat channel again, panned Hi / Mid / Low

OH LR panned, no FX.

All drums sent to Bus, Omni Bus compression and slight reverb.

Rhythm Gtrs, dusplicated track, panned LR with -15ms / +15ms delay / advance to add width, added S1 Fat channel for Comp. EQ etc.

Lead Gtr - Kept central, Fat channel, some Beat delay, Abbey Rd Reverb and slight widening.

Vocal - Duplicated track, original down the middle, duplicate hard right with advance 10ms low in the mix, tread with Waves RVox, Omni channel, Mixverb, Pro EQ.

Main Bus - Post Limiter +1Db, EQ to Hi Pass, DBX 160 compression ( light comp), Abbey Rd Vinyl grit.

Hope you like it !

spark240 · July 2018

Sorry...Im having trouble with permissions again !

poopot · July 2018

spark240 said:

Sorry...Im having trouble with permissions again !

This one is different to the other ones.

email an mp3 to mix@thefretboard.co.uk

and ill I’ll put it in the playlist.

folk are voting in this one!

spark240 · July 2018

Done !

Funkfingers · July 2018

spark240 said:

Kick and snare, Toms, OH, Rhythm Gtrs, Lead Gtr, Vocal

Aren't we forgetting something?

spark240 · July 2018

HH ?....ahh yes....

thecolourbox · July 2018

If I get chance, could I have a go please? I'd like to add ridiculous lashings of reverb to it

where does one download the files?
Thanks

spark240 · July 2018

thecolourbox said:

If I get chance, could I have a go please? I'd like to add ridiculous lashings of reverb to it where does one download the files?
Thanks

DM @poopot ;

poopot · July 2018

@spark240 got the file will upload tonight, having a break in between sets at the moment... @thecolourbox will also send you the files....

Back to the gig!!!!!

thecolourbox · July 2018

Cheers ears. I will be awful at this by the way

darthed1981 · July 2018

spark240 said:

So....heres my effort..Immusing Studio One V4

Started with drums, Stripped all silence from Kick and snare, some in auto some manually, treated both with Shepps Omni and S1 Fat channel, pus mixverb on the snare.

Toms, stripped all silence, plus manual editing, Omni channel and Fat channel again, panned Hi / Mid / Low

OH LR panned, no FX.

All drums sent to Bus, Omni Bus compression and slight reverb.

Rhythm Gtrs, dusplicated track, panned LR with -15ms / +15ms delay / advance to add width, added S1 Fat channel for Comp. EQ etc.

Lead Gtr - Kept central, Fat channel, some Beat delay, Abbey Rd Reverb and slight widening.

Vocal - Duplicated track, original down the middle, duplicate hard right with advance 10ms low in the mix, tread with Waves RVox, Omni channel, Mixverb, Pro EQ.

Main Bus - Post Limiter +1Db, EQ to Hi Pass, DBX 160 compression ( light comp), Abbey Rd Vinyl grit.

Hope you like it !

I like what you did to my voice!

spark240 · July 2018

darthed1981 said:

spark240 said:

So....heres my effort..Immusing Studio One V4

Started with drums, Stripped all silence from Kick and snare, some in auto some manually, treated both with Shepps Omni and S1 Fat channel, pus mixverb on the snare.

Toms, stripped all silence, plus manual editing, Omni channel and Fat channel again, panned Hi / Mid / Low

OH LR panned, no FX.

All drums sent to Bus, Omni Bus compression and slight reverb.

Rhythm Gtrs, dusplicated track, panned LR with -15ms / +15ms delay / advance to add width, added S1 Fat channel for Comp. EQ etc.

Lead Gtr - Kept central, Fat channel, some Beat delay, Abbey Rd Reverb and slight widening.

Vocal - Duplicated track, original down the middle, duplicate hard right with advance 10ms low in the mix, tread with Waves RVox, Omni channel, Mixverb, Pro EQ.

Main Bus - Post Limiter +1Db, EQ to Hi Pass, DBX 160 compression ( light comp), Abbey Rd Vinyl grit.

Hope you like it !

I like what you did to my voice!

It wasn’t easy ...;-)

poopot · July 2018

@spark240 Entry uploaded to the playlist... Thats 3 in there now... Who's next?

poopot · July 2018

thecolourbox said:

If I get chance, could I have a go please? I'd like to add ridiculous lashings of reverb to it where does one download the files?
Thanks

Files sent.

Brocco · July 2018

I've finally finished pointing and clicking in GarageBand and now have something I am reasonably happy to submit. However, I'm not sure how to create an mp3 file from my GB project and hope that someone here has that knowledge?

poopot · July 2018

Brocco said:

I've finally finished pointing and clicking in GarageBand and now have something I am reasonably happy to submit. However, I'm not sure how to create an mp3 file from my GB project and hope that someone here has that knowledge?

Make sure you have the "cycle" on and you have dragged it to cover what you want to export:

Goto "share" at the top of the screen and select "export to disk"

in the next dialogue box select "mp3" and click "export cycle area" and export it to where ever you want to save it.

Hope that helps

Brocco · July 2018

Cheers @poopot, much appreciated

Brocco · July 2018

mp3 file submitted. Given no prior experience of mixing, I used the standard options available in GarageBand, and adjusted panning and volume here and there, and doubled the rhythm guitar and vocal. The resulting mix does not materially change the open, riffy, nature of the original CCR recording.

poopot · July 2018

Brocco said:

mp3 file submitted. Given no prior experience of mixing, I used the standard options available in GarageBand, and adjusted panning and volume here and there, and doubled the rhythm guitar and vocal. The resulting mix does not materially change the open, riffy, nature of the original CCR recording.

Got it, Added to the original playlist.

guitartango · July 2018

Just sent in my mix, really enjoyed playing with a live recording, Not sure if the drums sound right but here is what i have done.

Guitar: Duplicated panned left and right and added a virtual amp to one of the stems
Bass: Added some more punch
Drums/Snare: Some slight reverb and compression
2nd guitar panned to one side
Vocals : Duplicated and added reverb and delay to one side

Now that was fun, can we have the other recordings to play with?

poopot · July 2018

guitartango said:

Just sent in my mix, really enjoyed playing with a live recording, Not sure if the drums sound right but here is what i have done.

Guitar: Duplicated panned left and right and added a virtual amp to one of the stems
Bass: Added some more punch
Drums/Snare: Some slight reverb and compression
2nd guitar panned to one side
Vocals : Duplicated and added reverb and delay to one side

Now that was fun, can we have the other recordings to play with?

Added to the playlist...

Which for quick reference is here:

https://soundcloud.com/thefretboard/sets/thefb-mixing-challenge-no1

poopot · July 2018

guitartango said:

Now that was fun, can we have the other recordings to play with?

Will do in a future challenge

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