Actually...scratch that. On the back, we have this:
On the left side, there are MIDI IN/OUT and headphones. That leaves three jacks on the right - two are TRS jacks for the stereo loop, which leaves one jack...since logic dictates it won't be an expression/FS jack (the other Helix units only have one), it can only be the Ext Amp out.
In which case...even though it's limited to six blocks, I'm thinkin' this could be a winner.
I know this will be shot down in flames but I my opinion that doesn't look as good as the headrush in terms of use and practicality.
I also find it interesting that those that were berating the Headrush for a lack of switches are swooning over this which has even less switches.
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I know this will be shot down in flames but I my opinion that doesn't look as good as the headrush in terms of use and practicality.
I also find it interesting that those that were berating the Headrush for a lack of switches are swooning over this which has even less switches.
It does have less switches by default, but you can add another two using the FS4/5 jack on the back. Five is just enough for me.
However, this is far too limiting for my needs as it turns out. Only three snapshots per preset, and it turns out that I need a minimum of 8 available blocks. And then the lack of Ext Amp output...I'm out, I'm afraid.
Great as a "get you out of the shit" unit in case of emergency, but not much use as the basis of a full-blown rig IMO.
So Atomic start with a 3 button model, then launch a unit with 12 and a cut down version with 2 and then decide 6 is best. Headrush start with 12, then decide to launch a unit with 4. Line 6 start with 12, then launch a unit with 3 (and also an FX only version with 8 buttons in the meantime).
So if you need to choose between them, just decide in advance how many buttons you want: 2 = Atomic Amplifire box 3 = Line 6 HX Stomp 4 = Headrush gigboard 6 = Atomic Amplifire 6 8 = Line 6 HX FX (athough you will need an amp too) 12 = the choice is yours!
...and there's an obvious gap in the market for a 10 button new gen modeller.
I know this will be shot down in flames but I my opinion that doesn't look as good as the headrush in terms of use and practicality.
I also find it interesting that those that were berating the Headrush for a lack of switches are swooning over this which has even less switches.
Agree - I would have liked more switches (4 would have been good, 8 would have been lovely) but the reason I'm swooning is it's a Helix based thingy, so I know it will sound good and fit in a gig bag as a backup. The Headrush looks good to me, but it's a faff on using two different platforms.
Suppose the reason it's so stripped down is if it had much more then it would practically be a LT in a smaller format which would have affected LT sales. Looks great, but my ideal would have been something slightly bigger with more footswitches
Am interested as both a Full Fat and LT are too expensive for my usage but would need to know more about what it's capable of.. (and why others find it limiting... what is an Ext Amp for?)
So if you had a patch with a wah and an overdrive and a delay, a snapshot could recall a particular gain and level for the overdrive, while also changing the delay settings for an epic widdly solo, but it wouldn't do anything to the wah.
So you can recall any set of parameters for any of the blocks in the patch, and leave all the others unchanged.
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Am interested as both a Full Fat and LT are too expensive for my usage but would need to know more about what it's capable of.. (and why others find it limiting... what is an Ext Amp for?)
Ext Amp would be for switching channels on a guitar amp.
Am interested as both a Full Fat and LT are too expensive for my usage but would need to know more about what it's capable of.. (and why others find it limiting... what is an Ext Amp for?)
Ext Amp would be for switching channels on a guitar amp.
OK, I can understand why that would be omitted on a skinny modeller
So if you had a patch with a wah and an overdrive and a delay, a snapshot could recall a particular gain and level for the overdrive, while also changing the delay settings for an epic widdly solo, but it wouldn't do anything to the wah.
So you can recall any set of parameters for any of the blocks in the patch, and leave all the others unchanged.
Cool thanks.
I sort of do that with my POD HD already. Create a patch and copy it on four pedals ABCD, then tweak each one so there are four variants.
Socket on the back labeled FS 4/5 If that does what I think it could I could happily gig with this
What do you think it does??
Im hoping that all footswitches (1-5 including the 2 external ones) are assignable, so my core patch would be clean, crunch, dirty, lead with FS 4 for delay on/off, that would get me through 90% of a gig and then a few patches for the songs that need something different. At a push I'd get through a gig on a single patch
I'm playing bass at the mo, and my LT is overkill for it and the guitar player is now using it. I can get by with a zoom b3n, but I'm interested in this now. Whether it's worth the extra expense is another thing. Shame there is no XLR out... Missed a trick there.
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juat offloading 1 amp and cab block to a seperate DSP would give me a bunch more room
mini helix controlling the Amp modelling, with big helix as a massive everchanging pedal board? sounds pretty wow to me!!
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Did someone in marketing shoot their load prematurely?
I also find it interesting that those that were berating the Headrush for a lack of switches are swooning over this which has even less switches.
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However, this is far too limiting for my needs as it turns out. Only three snapshots per preset, and it turns out that I need a minimum of 8 available blocks. And then the lack of Ext Amp output...I'm out, I'm afraid.
Great as a "get you out of the shit" unit in case of emergency, but not much use as the basis of a full-blown rig IMO.
Headrush start with 12, then decide to launch a unit with 4.
Line 6 start with 12, then launch a unit with 3 (and also an FX only version with 8 buttons in the meantime).
So if you need to choose between them, just decide in advance how many buttons you want:
2 = Atomic Amplifire box
3 = Line 6 HX Stomp
4 = Headrush gigboard
6 = Atomic Amplifire 6
8 = Line 6 HX FX (athough you will need an amp too)
12 = the choice is yours!
...and there's an obvious gap in the market for a 10 button new gen modeller.
Suppose the reason it's so stripped down is if it had much more then it would practically be a LT in a smaller format which would have affected LT sales. Looks great, but my ideal would have been something slightly bigger with more footswitches
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So if you had a patch with a wah and an overdrive and a delay, a snapshot could recall a particular gain and level for the overdrive, while also changing the delay settings for an epic widdly solo, but it wouldn't do anything to the wah.
So you can recall any set of parameters for any of the blocks in the patch, and leave all the others unchanged.
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I sort of do that with my POD HD already. Create a patch and copy it on four pedals ABCD, then tweak each one so there are four variants.
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