HX Stomp

digitalscream · October 2018

sgosden said:

https://www.thegearpage.net/board/index.php?threads/line-6-hx-stomp-video-answers-to-all-your-questions.1981427/

stealing the data leaks from TGP

Edit - video taken down before it could be watched

I watched some of it - not particularly exciting, and it had a lot of really annoying background noise.

Cabicular · October 2018

Sporky said:

It's adorable!

Oooh. How about two of those in the loops of a Helix?

I was thinking along similar lines
juat offloading 1 amp and cab block to a seperate DSP would give me a bunch more room

sgosden · October 2018

Sporky said:

It's adorable!

Oooh. How about two of those in the loops of a Helix?

mini helix controlling the Amp modelling, with big helix as a massive everchanging pedal board? sounds pretty wow to me!!

Kebabkid · October 2018

I've toyed so much with whether or not to get a HX but this one really appeals

BintyTwanger77 · October 2018

Ooh, the link in the original post doesn't/has been taken down now, and TGP thread above has gone as well..

Did someone in marketing shoot their load prematurely?

Musicman20 · October 2018

BintyTwanger77 said:

Ooh, the link in the original post doesn't/has been taken down now, and TGP thread above has gone as well..

Did someone in marketing shoot their load prematurely?

Think so! Not that it matters now....

sgosden · October 2018

Ol' frank on TGP suggested the relase was about 12 hours early and that Dig-igloo will be sad

Grumpyrocker · October 2018

Oops. Too late now, we all know about it.

meltedbuzzbox · October 2018

digitalscream said:

Actually...scratch that.
On the back, we have this:

On the left side, there are MIDI IN/OUT and headphones. That leaves three jacks on the right - two are TRS jacks for the stereo loop, which leaves one jack...since logic dictates it won't be an expression/FS jack (the other Helix units only have one), it can only be the Ext Amp out.

In which case...even though it's limited to six blocks, I'm thinkin' this could be a winner.

I know this will be shot down in flames but I my opinion that doesn't look as good as the headrush in terms of use and practicality.

I also find it interesting that those that were berating the Headrush for a lack of switches are swooning over this which has even less switches.

bloodandtears · October 2018

so is this a modeller or not??

Cabicular · October 2018

bloodandtears said:

so is this a modeller or not??

yes

digitalscream · October 2018

meltedbuzzbox said:

I know this will be shot down in flames but I my opinion that doesn't look as good as the headrush in terms of use and practicality.

I also find it interesting that those that were berating the Headrush for a lack of switches are swooning over this which has even less switches.

It does have less switches by default, but you can add another two using the FS4/5 jack on the back. Five is just enough for me.

However, this is far too limiting for my needs as it turns out. Only three snapshots per preset, and it turns out that I need a minimum of 8 available blocks. And then the lack of Ext Amp output...I'm out, I'm afraid.

Great as a "get you out of the shit" unit in case of emergency, but not much use as the basis of a full-blown rig IMO.

NelsonP · October 2018

So Atomic start with a 3 button model, then launch a unit with 12 and a cut down version with 2 and then decide 6 is best.
Headrush start with 12, then decide to launch a unit with 4.
Line 6 start with 12, then launch a unit with 3 (and also an FX only version with 8 buttons in the meantime).

So if you need to choose between them, just decide in advance how many buttons you want:
2 = Atomic Amplifire box
3 = Line 6 HX Stomp
4 = Headrush gigboard
6 = Atomic Amplifire 6
8 = Line 6 HX FX (athough you will need an amp too)
12 = the choice is yours!

...and there's an obvious gap in the market for a 10 button new gen modeller.

Grumpyrocker · October 2018

What's a "snapshot" in this context?

John_A · October 2018

meltedbuzzbox said:

I know this will be shot down in flames but I my opinion that doesn't look as good as the headrush in terms of use and practicality.

I also find it interesting that those that were berating the Headrush for a lack of switches are swooning over this which has even less switches.

Agree - I would have liked more switches (4 would have been good, 8 would have been lovely) but the reason I'm swooning is it's a Helix based thingy, so I know it will sound good and fit in a gig bag as a backup. The Headrush looks good to me, but it's a faff on using two different platforms.

Suppose the reason it's so stripped down is if it had much more then it would practically be a LT in a smaller format which would have affected LT sales. Looks great, but my ideal would have been something slightly bigger with more footswitches

John_A · October 2018

bloodandtears said:

so is this a modeller or not??

It certainly is

bloodandtears · October 2018

Am interested as both a Full Fat and LT are too expensive for my usage but would need to know more about what it's capable of.. (and why others find it limiting... what is an Ext Amp for?)

Sporky · October 2018

Grumpyrocker said:

What's a "snapshot" in this context?

Basically it's a sort of sub-preset.

So if you had a patch with a wah and an overdrive and a delay, a snapshot could recall a particular gain and level for the overdrive, while also changing the delay settings for an epic widdly solo, but it wouldn't do anything to the wah.

So you can recall any set of parameters for any of the blocks in the patch, and leave all the others unchanged.

digitalscream · October 2018

bloodandtears said:

Am interested as both a Full Fat and LT are too expensive for my usage but would need to know more about what it's capable of.. (and why others find it limiting... what is an Ext Amp for?)

Ext Amp would be for switching channels on a guitar amp.

PFAllen2 · October 2018

preston61 said:

Cabicular said:

preston61 said:

It also has a headphone output, something the HX is missing

I’m not sure why you would have a headphone socket on an FX unit? Makes sense in a modeller though

Probably just me who needed it when I had the HX (I don't play in to an amp, just a mixing desk, so at home a headphone out would've been helpful)

A Google image search for HX Stomp shows the headphone socket on the left side panel, beside the MIDI sockets!

bloodandtears · October 2018

digitalscream said:

bloodandtears said:

Am interested as both a Full Fat and LT are too expensive for my usage but would need to know more about what it's capable of.. (and why others find it limiting... what is an Ext Amp for?)

Ext Amp would be for switching channels on a guitar amp.

OK, I can understand why that would be omitted on a skinny modeller

John_A · October 2018

Socket on the back labeled FS 4/5 If that does what I think it could I could happily gig with this

bloodandtears · October 2018

John_A said:

Socket on the back labeled FS 4/5 If that does what I think it could I could happily gig with this

What do you think it does??

NelsonP · October 2018

bloodandtears said:

John_A said:

Socket on the back labeled FS 4/5 If that does what I think it could I could happily gig with this

What do you think it does??

Hopefully it instantly transforms your playing into something that other people actually want to hear. If that's the case I'm in too.

Grumpyrocker · October 2018

Sporky said:

Grumpyrocker said:

What's a "snapshot" in this context?

Basically it's a sort of sub-preset.

So if you had a patch with a wah and an overdrive and a delay, a snapshot could recall a particular gain and level for the overdrive, while also changing the delay settings for an epic widdly solo, but it wouldn't do anything to the wah.

So you can recall any set of parameters for any of the blocks in the patch, and leave all the others unchanged.

Cool thanks.

I sort of do that with my POD HD already. Create a patch and copy it on four pedals ABCD, then tweak each one so there are four variants.

John_A · October 2018

bloodandtears said:

John_A said:

Socket on the back labeled FS 4/5 If that does what I think it could I could happily gig with this

What do you think it does??

Im hoping that all footswitches (1-5 including the 2 external ones) are assignable, so my core patch would be clean, crunch, dirty, lead with FS 4 for delay on/off, that would get me through 90% of a gig and then a few patches for the songs that need something different. At a push I'd get through a gig on a single patch

Trude · October 2018

Did anyone else notice the 3A power requirement? That's going to make it a pain to integrate into a pedalboard.

paul_backskin · October 2018

I'm playing bass at the mo, and my LT is overkill for it and the guitar player is now using it. I can get by with a zoom b3n, but I'm interested in this now. Whether it's worth the extra expense is another thing. Shame there is no XLR out... Missed a trick there.

bloodandtears · October 2018

If it will do "clean" -> "Heavy crunch" -> soaring lead.. I'm definitely interested...

although I'm not into FRFR, it doesn't appeal; so it'd be Baby bomb into a Cab... unless i fancy a PowerCab..

wonder if it will use IR's too??

John_A · October 2018

bloodandtears said:

If it will do "clean" -> "Heavy crunch" -> soaring lead.. I'm definitely interested...

although I'm not into FRFR, it doesn't appeal; so it'd be Baby bomb into a Cab... unless i fancy a PowerCab..

wonder if it will use IR's too??

Pretty sure the original link said it supported IR's, but if you are using a Baby bomb into a Cab then surely you wouldn't need them

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