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The thread was about GDPR, which is an EU directive. Thus, it's perfectly reasonable and proportionate to knock the EU for producing byzantine legislation that has unintended consequences. You may not agree, which is your prerogative, but I'm not trying to take the thread off topic.
From my perspective it's the EU sycophants that love a whinge. As to 'getting what I wanted', Brexit has not happened and is unlikely to happen in a meaningful way. Personally, I'd prefer to remain than go with May's deal, although my preference would be to leave without a deal. I abhor the EU, which is bloated, authoritarian and undemocratic, and my views have nothing to do with straight bananas or immigration. Don't let that stop you from thinking that I'm a racist, knuckle-dragging Daily Mail reader, though.
No, the thread was a guy asking why he couldn't access a US website.
The reason was GDPR. All concerned went "Ah OK question answered."
Cue whinging stage right. Not every conversation everywhere has to be a lengthy justification about why that vote scraped a majority. It's almost as if supporters are really insecure about it.
I said nothing as to what i thought of your position on race, the length of your arms, or what newspaper you choose to read. please don't be so intellectually dishonest as to tell me what i think.
I merely pointed out that this is so old by now. An innocuous question can't even be asked without a lengthy tirade about how everything is the EU's fault. this isn't even the Off Topic thread and we're decidedly off topic.
@tekbow GDPR is an EU directive, so the suggestion that we can only note that it's due to GDPR but not go on to discuss the unintended consequences of the EU's byzantine regulation is completely disingenuous. If we accept that GDPR is imperfect and has caused issues, whose fault is it but the EU's?
>The reason was GDPR. All concerned went "Ah OK question answered."
The 'question' was answered in the original post - the OP knew that it was due to GDPR, which is clearly stated in his post. This is a discussion forum, so the idea that we can't then go on to discuss the issue is a nonsense. I know that some people are very sensitive to EU bashing, but it's a fair sport.
If you read back through the thread you'll see that you were the first person to allude to the referendum.
No-one in the EU is arguing over it because it is a great deal for them. We will be stuck in the free market and customs union, unable to leave, but we won't be able to vote against their directives any more. If our government hadn't caved in at every turn, then you would have seen friction and division among the EU 27.
There are things you can do to avoid letting things be tracked so much. You can use a search engine like DuckDuckGo, you can get a VPN, or you can change your cookie settings - although that last one might affect how you can use some websites.
With respect to 'whose fault it is', I'm all for political debate, but having closely followed what's been happening in the commons, across the media, reading the comments and speaking to people on both sides I can only express that the seemingly continuous reliance in platitudes and allusive language does more to stoke emotions than it does for clarity and reason.
Or companies trying to grapple with impenetrable regulation that no two compliance consultants can agree on.
Maybe now is a good moment to recognise that there isn't a 'great' deal available for either side: Any deal, including a no deal, is going to suck to some degree. It was pure fantasy, even idiocy, to believe that we'd leave with a 'great' deal, done within two years. Sadly, people voted for that non-existent fantasy deal, and now we're facing the consequences.
But the important point you're making is that it was OUR government that caved in at every turn. That should be enough to kill the fantasy that Britain is about to become a 'beacon of free trade' in the world. Or that being governed by Westminster alone is going to be any better for us.
However, your claim that if the British government hadn't caved in, then we would've seen friction and division in the EU is unsupported by any evidence. They more likely would've closed ranks and simply let the UK drop out without a deal. They have far less to lose from that outcome than we do - though, of course, it's not something they want either.
Dropping out without a deal in the short term would probably let us negotiate a much better deal in the long term.
Even if the EU has been united over this, mainly to encourage others not to drop out, it's not exactly a model for how to run an organisation properly. There are all kinds of issues. Look at the Italian government sticking its middle finger up at EU budget requirements, or Hungary's repression, or Greece's (among others) financial problems, which have merely been kicked down the road, and not resolved at all.
Even if they have united against us, the EU is a complete basket case. That's the main reason we need to leave. It's going to unravel eventually.
The irony is that a lot of their regulations are actually quite good. Getting back to the original topic of this thread, they are very good on trying to protect people's data, although they do it in a ham fisted way at times. They are also pretty good on food standards and animal welfare. They are too much in hock to certain business interests though in some of these issues (see Article 13 as an example).
As for the EU being divided, well, perhaps they are, but they're a lot less divided than the Tory party right now - and they're the people who created this mess... and just so they could grab enough UKIP votes to take power for themselves. The one thing I'd like to see unravel is the sodding Tory party!