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Going Veggie ?

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  • jonnyburgojonnyburgo Frets: 12257
    I made aubergine burgers last night, sliced aubergine breadcrumbed and fried, 2 “burgers” in a chunky bun with grated carrot red onion, cherry Tom and extra hot reggae reggae sauce, home made skin on wedges on the side, well nice!
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  • TheMarlinTheMarlin Frets: 7744
    I make aubergine meatballs (no meat).  With a nice homemade pasta sauce with linguini, it’s food of the gods. 

    Antonio Carluccio once said, if you cook with aubergines, you will never miss meat. He’s right. I always have a few aubergines in the fridge, you can do so much with them. 

    Melanzane alla parmigiana is one of the best plates of food you’ll ever put in your mouth.  I make it non traditionally, with added dabs of ricotta in the layers, and smoked mozzarella.  it’s (even if I say so myself) incredible!

    I let rennet slide, I’m about 60% cheese. 

    I didn’t become a vegetarian because of ‘little fluffy animals’, I just didn’t like meat, and being a vegetarian really pissed my dad off, which was fun.  I just forgot to stop. 

    My brother in law runs a hog roasting business, I help out from time to time. If that hasn’t turned me, not sure what could. 
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  • octatonicoctatonic Frets: 33725
    We went vegetarian when moving to Singapore, partly because of my mum's bowel cancer diagnosis and me having half her genes and partly because we weren't sure about the food quality here (it is mostly fine, although a local restaurant shut 2 months ago because they hospitalised 30 people and killed 1).

    Also not an animal welfare issue for us so after a while we started adding in a small amount of cheese, but much less than what we were having in the UK.

    You don't have to become magically capable in the kitchen to eat vegetarian- a lot of our dishes are simply variations on what we used to have.

    Yesterday we had fruit for breakfast.
    Lunch was a big salad with felafel and hummus.
    Dinner was penne arrabbiata with a small amount of parmesan.

    Breakfast was fruit for Mrs Oct- I had toast.
    Lunch today was a tomato/salad roll + salad.
    Dinner tonight is a lentil/carrot/cauliflower curry with basmati rice.

    We don't do food that is made to look like the meat we no longer eat.
    The point is to eat less processed food, not more.
    I know a lot of vegetarians who are much unhealthier than your typical meat eater- you can be vegan eating Oreo's but are they good for you?

    If 70%ish of your diet is green stuff from the ground then you will be in a good place with it.
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  • HattigolHattigol Frets: 8176
    I think you should. I think the misery of it will inspire you to some truly epic rants on here which I await with immense anticipation. 
    "Anybody can play. The note is only 20%. The attitude of the motherf*cker who plays it is  80%" - Miles Davis
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  • ewalewal Frets: 2558
    It's pretty easy to be a vegetarian these days - loads of sources for recipes etc, We use the BBC Good Food website quite frequently.

    https://www.bbcgoodfood.com/recipes/category/vegetarian


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  • TheMarlin said:
    tone1 said:
    Linda McCartney’s sausages... blood lovely things.... Don’t miss the meat at all.. :)
    I disagree.  They're like wet cardboard. Cauldron Foods veggie Cumberlands are my favorite.  I don't eat Quorn, it's bleached mold grown in vast chemical vats.  No thanks.

    I've been a vegetarian for nearly 35 years.  Not got bored of it yet.  Having potato, fennel, and artichoke 'Al Forno' tonight.

    I could never go vegan, it's just too difficult unless you REALLY plan your meals.  My daughter is vegan, but I'm just convinced it's an attention seeking 'follow the herd, and fall in line' millennial thing.... 

    I think Cauldron do some nice Falafels also.
    We stopped eating Quorn when we realised how it was made.
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  • SnapSnap Frets: 6256

    another vote for Thug kitchen. Hairy Biker go Veggie is good as well - plenty of hearty dishes in there.

    cheapest source of inspiration is online - bbc good food and Jamie oliver sites have loads of recipes.

    I'd also put a bit of time into learning how to properly cook veg too. that way you will get the best out of each thing. For example roasted cauliflower is a lot different to steamed.

    things like knowing that peppers and mushrooms both cook in around the same time, and both absorb oil, so don't chuckem in with your onions til your onions are done. All this stuff will come good after a few recipes though.

    My current thing is hasselback potatoes. Getting a bit obsessed tbh

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  • KebabkidKebabkid Frets: 3301
    edited January 2019
    The Vivera Smoky BBQ Pulled Pork is very good. It's made from jackfruit and tastes like pork and takes minutes to cook. Add some roasted veggies and put in a wrap and it's fabulous!

    I'm trying Vegan & Gluten-Free for a month but think that might change to veggie, which might change to veggie & fish, but I'll keep the GF part as I feel less bloated and have more energy! So far, I'm not missing bread or red meat but I am missing fish, chicken and eggs but I'm not sure if Vegan will suit me.

    Anyone heard about your blood type determining what your diet should be? I've read similar things to this before
    https://www.webmd.com/diet/a-z/blood-type-diet

    BTW, the Linda McCartney Red Onion sausages are really good and IMHO, better than her regular ones. They're also gluten-free.

    EDIT: Fell off the Vegan Cart after 6 days. It didn't suit me but I'm looking at a diet based on my blood group
    (B pos) but I'm trying to push it more towards veg and fish, which I thought might happen and mentioned earlier in my post. Out of everything, I missed eggs soooooooooo much!

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  • Bosh! Has already been recommended, and Veganomicon is good if you want recipes for things like neat replacements such as Seitan.
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  • TheMarlin said:
    tone1 said:
    Linda McCartney’s sausages... blood lovely things.... Don’t miss the meat at all.. :)
    I could never go vegan, it's just too difficult unless you REALLY plan your meals.  My daughter is vegan, but I'm just convinced it's an attention seeking 'follow the herd, and fall in line' millennial thing.... 

    Untrue on all counts :-)
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  • EricTheWearyEricTheWeary Frets: 16253
    I gave up meat about 38 years ago and have been variously vegetarian, vegan and pescatarian. The labels are pretty meaningless beyond giving you an idea of what to cook if I came round for dinner. 

    My kids weren't raised as vegetarians but they will often choose vegetarian options , they aren't used to having meat as the main feature in a meal all the time. In some ways I think that's a good balance, not thinking that a meal is incomplete without a big chunk of flesh. 

    I guess generally pursue what you like and look for non meat and reduced meat options within that. Have simple goals like meat free Monday's or avoiding the nightmare meats like battery chicken ( the cost of free range chicken will have you reaching for the tofu). Loads of stuff online, on an app like Kitchen Stories you can search by ingredient and meatless. 
    Tipton is a small fishing village in the borough of Sandwell. 
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  • TheMarlinTheMarlin Frets: 7744
    TheMarlin said:
    tone1 said:
    Linda McCartney’s sausages... blood lovely things.... Don’t miss the meat at all.. :)
    I could never go vegan, it's just too difficult unless you REALLY plan your meals.  My daughter is vegan, but I'm just convinced it's an attention seeking 'follow the herd, and fall in line' millennial thing.... 

    Untrue on all counts :-)
    You know her?
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  • TheMarlin said:
    TheMarlin said:
    tone1 said:
    Linda McCartney’s sausages... blood lovely things.... Don’t miss the meat at all.. :)
    I could never go vegan, it's just too difficult unless you REALLY plan your meals.  My daughter is vegan, but I'm just convinced it's an attention seeking 'follow the herd, and fall in line' millennial thing.... 

    Untrue on all counts :-)
    You know her?
    No, but as a vegan I can categorically state that it is not "difficult unless you REALLY plan your meals", and the whole "it's a millennial/sheep/fad" nonsense is a Piers Morgan-esque blinkered, bigoted opinion that gets levelled at vegans all the time by omnivores who refuse to accept that people have legitimate reasons for wanting to do things differently.

    I hope you give your daughter support, not scorn.
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  • merlinmerlin Frets: 6597
    I agree with @MattBanshee, 

    Why do certain people need to belittle others about their dietary choices? If they were being belittled due to their race, sexuality, religion, even nationality then there would some bigotry going on and it would probably be called out. 

    I have made some dietary choices and I never proselytise. My reasons are my own, so please don't chuck the "how the f**k do you know a carrot doesn't have feelings" bullshit at me before asking me at least why I've made my choices. Please also note that I will never shout at you or belittle you for your choices, however wrong I feel they may be.    
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  • revsorgrevsorg Frets: 874
    Some people's feelings of self-worth are bound up in making other people feel worse.
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  • Bygone_TonesBygone_Tones Frets: 1528
    edited January 2019
    Maybe a bit hypocritical of me, but you really don't need to buy books. Get on youtube, pinterest, instagram. Millions of free recipes and cooking tutorials. Get on the author's social media and get all their free content.

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  • HattigolHattigol Frets: 8176
    My favourite veggie recipe is just two simple slices of bread, buttered and placed together. Lovely.

    Although you do need to put some bacon in between them to make it pleasurable.
    "Anybody can play. The note is only 20%. The attitude of the motherf*cker who plays it is  80%" - Miles Davis
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  • UnclePsychosisUnclePsychosis Frets: 12880
    edited January 2019
    Hattigol said:
    My favourite veggie recipe is just two simple slices of bread, buttered and placed together. Lovely.

    Although you do need to put some bacon in between them to make it pleasurable.
    Excellent timing! @Emp_Fab the single worst thing about going vegetarian or vegan is---quite genuinely---the "humour" to which you will be subjected.

    My wife is vegan so I encounter this a lot but even speaking as someone who still very much enjoys the odd steak now and then the "but, bacon!!!1111" brigade do my tits in just as much hers. 
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  • merlinmerlin Frets: 6597
    Excellent timing! @Emp_Fab the single worst thing about going vegetarian or vegan is---quite genuinely---the prejudice to which you will be subjected.
    Fixed that for you. 
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  • TheMarlinTheMarlin Frets: 7744
    TheMarlin said:
    TheMarlin said:
    tone1 said:
    Linda McCartney’s sausages... blood lovely things.... Don’t miss the meat at all.. :)
    I could never go vegan, it's just too difficult unless you REALLY plan your meals.  My daughter is vegan, but I'm just convinced it's an attention seeking 'follow the herd, and fall in line' millennial thing.... 

    Untrue on all counts :-)
    You know her?
    No, but as a vegan I can categorically state that it is not "difficult unless you REALLY plan your meals", and the whole "it's a millennial/sheep/fad" nonsense is a Piers Morgan-esque blinkered, bigoted opinion that gets levelled at vegans all the time by omnivores who refuse to accept that people have legitimate reasons for wanting to do things differently.

    I hope you give your daughter support, not scorn.
    Do I give my daughter support? What do you think? if you knew me (which you don’t), you would know I’m all about family.  I adore my daughter (she’s 19). 
    I supported my daughter all through chef school (she’s a fully trained chef specialising in vegan food), and i’ll continue to support her through her degree and beyond. 

    I cook vegan food for her (remember, I’ve been a vegetarian for 35 years), but I find that it take a lot more thought to get a vegan specific meal on a plate than a vegetarian meal. They way I do it is to plan her meals for the time she’s with me. That way I know the day before that I need to soak pulses overnight, or ferment/ pickle veggies overnight, or sprout seeds etc. 

    I like vegan food, but prefer the vegetarian options I’ve cooked for the last 35 years. Plus, I can throw a great veggie meal together much quicker. i very rarely use an processed ingredients, though every few months crave a veggie sausage sandwich. 

    What I don’t like is over opinionated semi militant veganism.  In some way, it reminds me of conspiracy theorists, they watch a few YouTube videos, take someone else’s opinion as their own, and ram it down people throats. I find a lot of young vegans all have identical opinions, identical points of view, the same script, it’s all a bit ‘jelly mould’. 

    i have no problem with strong opinions, but I favour getting them from real world experience, not forums and YouTube.  

    I do agree that many animals are treated poorly in the name of food production, but I don’t eat that stuff.  My wife or other children are not vegetarian, and I do buy meat for them (and cook it), but I buy good meat from local producers. I can see how the animals are raised. 



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