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Am I right in thinking that Customs weren't built with maple caps until they were reissued in '68? I assume Page's is/was a 'proper' old one (ie from the 50s), which would account for some of the tonal difference, compared to his Standard?
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JPJ and Bonzo Junior really did the job though and held the songs together, while Percy did Ok.
The thin tone is certainly part of the Zep dynamic, but this doesn't even get close to that meshing.
Celebration should have stayed in the can.
So far so much modulation...Orge amps though, titter...
I went to see Fred Zeppelin a few years ago and it was a bit of a revelation. I suddenly got that Zep were about the bass and drums and that years of hearing them thru weedy hi fi systems had hidden how they really worked.
And yes the early Sabbath sound was quite timid by modern standards. When I saw them last year it was much cleaner than you might expect, but then the complicated stuff didn't turn to mush and it worked.
HD Tracks offer a better mixed audiophile 48kHz/24bit version [audio only] for die hard Zep fans which is supposed to be good.
http://www.hdtracks.com/celebration-day
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Remember, it's easier to criticise than create!
It is generally accepted that their amplifiers present 'Pace, rhythm and timing' at the expense of neutrality.
With digital sources I find them unlistenably 'hard' sounding. It seems appropriate that a Naim fan would like Page's tone, regardless of the mix....
I thought his guitar sound was s***e and said so but then I'm known amongst my colleagues as being the embittered, failed musician so my opinion was poo poohed as 'Sour Grapes' from the frustrated bedroom guitarist...
Meh !
I just think it was great that lot's of genuine lifetime Led Zep fans got to see them! It would have been horrid had this turned into some industry love-in full of posers and fashionistas.
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Fact is there just wasn't enough time to put this together. In the normal course of events a band would practise for months and if they were going on a world-wide tour they'd be able to afford a top notch crew. Issues and problems would be ironed out along the way and any resulting live album could be made up from a number of different performances.
I agree about Page's tone but Bonham's drums are a shambles in places and sadly he's not a patch on his late father. I think Plant is right not to want to tour.
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The point I was making was that Naim electronics are not to my taste - the same as Page's tone isn't. I find both harsh/unlistenable.
I probably didn't articulate it as well I should have....
Led Zep were probably too wasted or pissed to lock together like that most of the time.