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anyone fancy picking a song and having us all rip it appart and do a detailed analysis of it??
essentially find out what makes it tick..
don't know if any of you guys think this sort of exercise would be useful...
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Ringleader of the Cambridge cartel, pedal champ and king of the dirt boxes (down to 21)
Supportact said: [my style is] probably more an accumulation of limitations and bad habits than a 'style'.
I think we should endeavour to look for a few songs that are really well writen rather than songs that are riddled with high technique stuff.. songs that have a lot of good compositional content rather than songs that are centred around insane musicianship.. the idea hear is that we all chip in with our observations and hopefully take away some interesting / thought provoking jems that we could add to our own song-writing skills
The Beatles: Something - I thnik this one has some interesting stuff in it..
feel free to chip in with song choices
This is a fantastic idea although I'm not sure how much "theory" I'll amaze people with seeing as there are teachers and the like on here. I'm sure it would help a lot of people understand song stucturing, harmonic structuring etc.
@Barney
Good choice with Steely Dan. They write some complex chord structures. I was going to suggest Kid Charlemange(I have Chords), but here are several more nice tunes by others.
10cc: I'm Mandy, Fly Me. Same as with Kid Charlemange, I have the correct chords, but am damned if I know how such masterpieces were thought through.
A.W.B: Atlantic Avenue, I have transcribed 60% of this and found it interesting that they made a melody with a chord change from EMaj7 to Emin work, or is that not really rocket science? The song has a great middle section. The last verses then transposes up a semi tone.
John Lennon: Just Like Startin' Over is a good one too.
I don't mean to overload the page, but there's some good food for thought in those.
Exactly my thoughts too! How about octavarium by dream theater?
Supportact said: [my style is] probably more an accumulation of limitations and bad habits than a 'style'.
How about we analyse a song a week, and as the idea was from @Clarky let him pick the first one, and start dissecting it.
As Clarky suggested The Beatles, Something, lets start with that.
@ Viz, we can move up to Octavarium, next week (maybe)
Ringleader of the Cambridge cartel, pedal champ and king of the dirt boxes (down to 21)
Attracts me like no other lover
Something in the way she woos me
I don't want to leave her now
You know I believe and how
Somewhere in her smile she knows
That I don't need no other lover
Something in her style that shows me
Don't want to leave her now
You know I believe and how
You're asking me will my love grow
I don't know, I don't know
You stick around now it may show
I don't know, I don't know
Something in the way she knows
And all I have to do is think of her
Something in the things she shows me
Don't want to leave her now
You know I believe and how
No you're right. Actually i had a very slightly different idea of what we could do with the songs, but it's impractical on a forum i feel. It'd be great to have like a book club, but for rock. Anyhow, right, that beatles song. Going to listen to it and see what i can contribute. Carry on.
Supportact said: [my style is] probably more an accumulation of limitations and bad habits than a 'style'.
Clarky has analysed the living crap out of it from a theory perspective and a damn fine job he has done.