New Martin slope shoulders

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brojanglesbrojangles Frets: 362
edited January 2019 in Acoustics
My wish for a guitar that looks like a J45 but plays and sounds like a Martin might have taken a step towards becoming realisable: 

https://www.martinguitar.com/guitars/17-series/dss-17-whiskey-sunset/

And it has 'aesthetic beauty', no less.
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  • Andy79Andy79 Frets: 888
    Low oval neck and laminate on the down side but I have to try on out for sure 
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  • KKJaleKKJale Frets: 982
    Mmm, long scale, so more like a Texan than a J45. Interested to hear what they sound like. 
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  • stickyfiddlestickyfiddle Frets: 26749
    edited January 2019
    Sounds good to me. I can't see an mention of laminate back/sides anywhere though?



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  • Andy79Andy79 Frets: 888
    Maybe my mistake on the laminate. The blurb says solid spruce and mahogany back sides. Hard to tell from that 
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  • Yeah I think they're solid, Martin are usually pretty upfront about using HPL. Agree about the necks though  
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  • Andy79Andy79 Frets: 888
    edited January 2019
    https://www.andertons.co.uk/martin-dss-17-black-smoke-dss17blacksmoke

    In black is fantastic. 1 3/4 nut is a VERY good thing for me 
    I’m excited about these(!)
    and yes , apologies, it’s solid
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  • thermionicthermionic Frets: 9498
    Martin are missing a trick in their description - describing the top as solid and omitting the term when describing the back and sides is usually the manufacturer’s coy shorthand for laminate.
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  • Andy79Andy79 Frets: 888
    Martin are missing a trick in their description - describing the top as solid and omitting the term when describing the back and sides is usually the manufacturer’s coy shorthand for laminate.
    Totally agree. I was thrown until I read it on a retailer site 
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  • CloudNineCloudNine Frets: 4254
    Never played any long scale guitar, whether slope shouldered or whatever, that feels or sounds anything like a J45. It's a really fundamental element I think.
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  • Andy79Andy79 Frets: 888
    Anyone got the scoop on these yet? Must be one or two kicking around by now 
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  • crunchmancrunchman Frets: 11413
    Andy79 said:
    https://www.andertons.co.uk/martin-dss-17-black-smoke-dss17blacksmoke

    In black is fantastic. 1 3/4 nut is a VERY good thing for me 
    I’m excited about these(!)
    and yes , apologies, it’s solid
    That's me out.

    What is Martin's obsession with 1 3/4" these days.  1 11/16" is much better.
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  • octatonicoctatonic Frets: 33725
    crunchman said:
    Andy79 said:
    https://www.andertons.co.uk/martin-dss-17-black-smoke-dss17blacksmoke

    In black is fantastic. 1 3/4 nut is a VERY good thing for me 
    I’m excited about these(!)
    and yes , apologies, it’s solid
    That's me out.

    What is Martin's obsession with 1 3/4" these days.  1 11/16" is much better.
    Fat fingered Americans.
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  • earwighoneyearwighoney Frets: 3489
    crunchman said:
    Andy79 said:
    https://www.andertons.co.uk/martin-dss-17-black-smoke-dss17blacksmoke

    In black is fantastic. 1 3/4 nut is a VERY good thing for me 
    I’m excited about these(!)
    and yes , apologies, it’s solid
    That's me out.

    What is Martin's obsession with 1 3/4" these days.  1 11/16" is much better.
    Martin used to have different profiles, 

    D18/28/000-18's etc used to have 1 11/16" wide nuts, with 2 1/8" string spacing at the saddle

    A few other models including OM's, 00-18V  used to have 1 3/4" at the nut, and 2 1/4"/2 5/16" at the saddle. 

    Now the majority of models have 1 3/4" at the nut, and 2 5/32" at the saddle, I presume so they can have one spec for all.  Which I don't think is a great thing, as the nut width is probably a little too wide for some, and the saddle spacing is too narrow for finger pickers. 

    At least before the older specs catered for different playing styles opposed to just having a best of both worlds. 
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  • LewyLewy Frets: 4126
    CloudNine said:
    Never played any long scale guitar, whether slope shouldered or whatever, that feels or sounds anything like a J45. It's a really fundamental element I think.
    Agree, although the OP says he's wants it to look like a J45 but play and sound like a Martin, so the longer scale actually fits the bill. 

    I guess the closest Martin to true J45 spec would be the Ralph McTell...pricey though.
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  • ToneControlToneControl Frets: 11789
    crunchman said:
    Andy79 said:
    https://www.andertons.co.uk/martin-dss-17-black-smoke-dss17blacksmoke

    In black is fantastic. 1 3/4 nut is a VERY good thing for me 
    I’m excited about these(!)
    and yes , apologies, it’s solid
    That's me out.

    What is Martin's obsession with 1 3/4" these days.  1 11/16" is much better.
    nah, 1 7/8 inch is best surely ;-)
    Closer to classical guitar spec
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  • crunchman said:
    Andy79 said:
    https://www.andertons.co.uk/martin-dss-17-black-smoke-dss17blacksmoke

    In black is fantastic. 1 3/4 nut is a VERY good thing for me 
    I’m excited about these(!)
    and yes , apologies, it’s solid
    That's me out.

    What is Martin's obsession with 1 3/4" these days.  1 11/16" is much better.
    Yeah it's annoying. I really like their 1 3/4" necks but I'm not everybody, and narrower necks have their place.
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  • brojanglesbrojangles Frets: 362
    In the meantime I haven't seen one of these in the wild yet. Peach seems to have one but most of the big online shops still have them on preorder, and Westside didn't have any last time I was going past. 
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  • Andy79Andy79 Frets: 888
    Anyone tried one yet? Nothing local for me to try. Most reviews say light, honky and wild. Sounds great. Perhaps someone is bored of one and wants to move it on?!
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  • crunchman said:
    Andy79 said:
    https://www.andertons.co.uk/martin-dss-17-black-smoke-dss17blacksmoke

    In black is fantastic. 1 3/4 nut is a VERY good thing for me 
    I’m excited about these(!)
    and yes , apologies, it’s solid
    That's me out.

    What is Martin's obsession with 1 3/4" these days.  1 11/16" is much better.
    nah, 1 7/8 inch is best surely ;-)
    Closer to classical guitar spec
    Definitely, 1 7/8 is perfect, and chunky!
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  • crunchman said:
    Andy79 said:
    https://www.andertons.co.uk/martin-dss-17-black-smoke-dss17blacksmoke

    In black is fantastic. 1 3/4 nut is a VERY good thing for me 
    I’m excited about these(!)
    and yes , apologies, it’s solid
    That's me out.

    What is Martin's obsession with 1 3/4" these days.  1 11/16" is much better.
    nah, 1 7/8 inch is best surely ;-)
    Closer to classical guitar spec
    Definitely, 1 7/8 is perfect, and chunky!
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