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A friend of mine has been running them on an occasional basis for years though.
Right guys, I found these, good price and relatively close. Thoughts?
Passive, over-priced.
Much better off with powered speakers.
With hard rock, you're likely to need a decent quality PA for the vocals so they can be heard. In my experience, you get what you pay for, so maybe need to up your budget?
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Up my budget! Why didn't I think of that
Of course, if you're not really all that bothered what is sounds like (because it's "just vocals and a pub rock band") you can buy any old shit. Your choice, at the end of the day.
R.
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Have a look for a Peavey PV2600 amp and a set of used HK, Peavey, Yamaha passive speakers .... you could probably get the amp and speakers for £400 ish on Ebay.
Mackie have deleted parts for the Thumps now so if the DSP board goes (which they do ) your be designing your own crossover The actual amps are fixable though and the schematics were still on Mackie's site last time I looked which was nice
Also, depending on the logistics, I would typically put the amps directly behind the speakers, meaning I would need power there anyway.
I think if I was going any bigger than the current rig, I'd switch to passives/power amps for the reasons you state.
R.
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What HK system are you running ?
They've been solid for me, but I typically use them for smallish gigs where they're operating well within their capabilities, and with a Yamaha TF-Rack mixer with a compressor/limiter on the stereo outs so they're fairly well-protected.
Another band from York has the same system and has had problems with several tops blowing, but they work the system a lot harder and more often.
That said, I'm really tempted to get another Power Pack so I can have two subs per side, and use the tops as monitors, giving me 4 in total. Maybe if I did more hires...
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As long as the vocals can be heard and it doesn't sound like it's a was in a tin can then I'd be happy.
My last band had a set of qtx 12inch 250 watt and they easily were loud enough with 3 vocals.
One side project of mine has gone through three pairs of active 12" cabs in seven years, all in a vocal-only application in a quiet band with percussion rather than drums.
I am so over class D shite, I will definitely go back to passives and a proper amp next time.
Be patient, and look for RFF, Yamaha, QSC, DB Technologies or Mackie. Much better than rushing out and buying something because it's cheap and local
Or you could just use one side of the amp for a couple of monitors and the other for a sub and two tops for vocals...I think those mpx's are rated two 2ohm @ 1600 watts. It might just work for a small venue and over time you can add a cheap thomann speaker management box for 70 quid and get a secondhand cheap amp like c audio r3000 to run the tops and monitors with.
With that bare spec you might just be able to do it but probably for more like 600 quid if you're lucky
Especially since getting told different brands of speakers and amp could damage the speakers although I see them mixed a lot