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Axe_FX II Rigs, or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love Digital Modelling.

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  • Drew, it sounds like it's coming together for you. Are anyway near confidence in a band setting?
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  • Drew_TNBDDrew_TNBD Frets: 22445
    Drew, it sounds like it's coming together for you. Are anyway near confidence in a band setting?
    Hmmm. I would be confident with a dedicated valve power amp, but it isn't on the cards just yet. It's good into the return of my Diezel, but if I do that... might as well just use the Diezel!

    So I'm basically giving up on that pursuit for the moment. Maybe in the future.

    I'm confident the tones are there. I'm not confident I could setup my patches in an ultra usable way... but I'm also not confident that it matters as much to me as it did in the past. I reckon I could probably get by with individual presets.
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  • Would it help if you tone matched your D-moll through an FRFR cab (which I can assist with). Pardon me for stating the obvious, you would need a flattish mic for this.
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  • Drew_TNBDDrew_TNBD Frets: 22445
    Not sure I follow boss. What would that give me? Coz I don't really have a FRFR solution either.
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  • What, I believe it would do, is produce an "un-cabbed" version of your D-moll, as opposed to D-moll and Egnater cab.

    Off course this is all cobblers if you've moved on the Valve state.
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  • Drew_TNBDDrew_TNBD Frets: 22445
    Oh yeah, the valvestate is gone. Part ex'd for a Line 6 M9!
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  • Oh. Now I feel like a chump.
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  • AndyJPAndyJP Frets: 219
    edited September 2014
    Roland said:
    Listening on an iPad I quite like the top end as it is. Rather than shaping the top end with EQ I'd start by boosting the lower mids in the amp block, or using a 335. What guitar was it recorded with?
    Roland, that one for me? 

    If so it's a Music man Luke iii HH on bridge pickup.
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  • ClarkyClarky Frets: 3261
    Drew_fx said:
    Oh yeah, the valvestate is gone. Part ex'd for a Line 6 M9!

    that's a surprise.. I thought you quite liked the tone of the 8008
    play every note as if it were your first
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  • Drew_TNBDDrew_TNBD Frets: 22445
    Clarky said:
    Drew_fx said:
    Oh yeah, the valvestate is gone. Part ex'd for a Line 6 M9!

    that's a surprise.. I thought you quite liked the tone of the 8008
    To be honest dude, we had some great sounds when we used yours. But through a single 4x12 at the levels my band plays at, it just kinda fell apart. I was a bit gutted tbh.
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  • RolandRoland Frets: 8592
    AndyJP;349779" said:
    Roland, that one for me? 

    If so it's a Music man Luke iii HH on bridge pickup.
    Yep. The guitar contributes to the upper mid aggression in the tone. Nothing wrong with that, and it suits Luke's musical style. Reminds me of him and Larry Carlton on No Substitutions. Your recorded sound is like Luke, but the note choice is more like Larry.

    If you want to tame the tone then I'd try sweeping a reasonably narrow notch filter of -6dB up the EQ using a Filter block to see whether you can find a frequency that helps. If it does then play around with Q and negative gain of the notch to get the sound you want, If it doesn't then try sweeping a +6dB peak between 500 Hz and 1KHz  to see whether it warms things up.

    There are loads of more subtle things you can do with Amp EQ, Cab emulation, PEQ and GEQ, but the filter test should show relatively quickly whether EQ is going to give the answer you want. You can then spend the rest of your life refining it ....
    Tree recycler, and guitarist with  https://www.undercoversband.com/.
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  • ClarkyClarky Frets: 3261
    Drew_fx said:
    Clarky said:
    Drew_fx said:
    Oh yeah, the valvestate is gone. Part ex'd for a Line 6 M9!

    that's a surprise.. I thought you quite liked the tone of the 8008
    To be honest dude, we had some great sounds when we used yours. But through a single 4x12 at the levels my band plays at, it just kinda fell apart. I was a bit gutted tbh.
    makes sense I guess…
    when folk ask me "how big should my amp be?"
    I usually answer something along the line of "far too big"

    remember our chat?? Texan Engineering??
    everything is bigger and better in Texas..
    if you need 1 of something, get 8
    play every note as if it were your first
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  • AndyJPAndyJP Frets: 219
    edited September 2014
    Cheers Roland. Really useful tips, appreciate the advice. Not played with the filter block, will have a crack.

    Ooof Larry Carlton, will take that. Kind word mate, thanks. Will have to try it with the dumble patch.

    The neck on the musicman is fantastic, such a great guitar btw.

    Soz fer hijacking the thread. 


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  • RolandRoland Frets: 8592
    No hijack. I love the Dumble, but find it difficult to get it to cut through in a live band situation
    Tree recycler, and guitarist with  https://www.undercoversband.com/.
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  • Drew_TNBDDrew_TNBD Frets: 22445
    This thread has been hijacked about twenty times, feel free!! :D
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  • Clarky said:
    Drew_fx said:
    Clarky said:
    Drew_fx said:
    Oh yeah, the valvestate is gone. Part ex'd for a Line 6 M9!

    that's a surprise.. I thought you quite liked the tone of the 8008
    To be honest dude, we had some great sounds when we used yours. But through a single 4x12 at the levels my band plays at, it just kinda fell apart. I was a bit gutted tbh.
    makes sense I guess…
    when folk ask me "how big should my amp be?"
    I usually answer something along the line of "far too big"

    remember our chat?? Texan Engineering??
    everything is bigger and better in Texas..
    if you need 1 of something, get 8
    This is exactly the reason I have a power amp that produces 500watts, on each of it's three channels.

    Wise words, @Clarky. Wise words.
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  • ClarkyClarky Frets: 3261
    in that case... you need another poweramp to augment it.. lmao
    play every note as if it were your first
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  • I'll get two and then I can drive 9 4x12s. 6 wet, 3 dry.
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  • ClarkyClarky Frets: 3261
    you know it makes sense
    play every note as if it were your first
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