I'm just wondering how, of those who use MIDI with IOS devices, you connect it up.
I know my options are basically twofold; a standard USB MIDI interface connecting to the 30pin/Lightning port via a Camera Connection Kit / OTG adapter cable...., or Bluetooth. Yamaha do a Bluetooth MIDI interface and this looks good - if a bit pricey.
Anyone tried one?
Also, would anyone know if the latency is better with an external soundcard (such as a Sonicport) compared to the internal soundcard? I know I'm thinking of PCs here where ASIO drivers were the only path to ultra-low latency. Does the same apply to IOS ?
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http://mipuc.com/
alternatively as you say, any class compliant USB interface and the CCK
Not sure what you're asking re Sonicport - it doesn't do midi (which I'm guessing you already know) so I might be missing the point... ?
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My other question was, do you get better latency with an external sound card such as the sonic port or is the built-in sound circuitry good enough?
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Audio doesnt work like that in iOS - sonicport isn't a 'sound card' in the PC sense - it is a DAC and a Mixer that allows you to put a couple of analogue signals into the SP and turn then in to the digital stream the lightning port expects. (and in reverse, takes the digital audio stream from the iOS device and turns it analogue so you can stick headphones/analogue out connections in the SP.
Where are you concerned about latency between? Where does the softsynth sound need to get to? Stay in the iOS device and recorded there? Just to your headphones? Or out to an analogue destination?
Audio doesnt work like that in iOS - sonicport isn't a 'sound card' in the PC sense - it is a DAC and a Mixer that allows you to put a couple of analogue signals into the SP and turn then in to the digital stream the lightning port expects. (and in reverse, takes the digital audio stream from the iOS device and turns it analogue so you can stick headphones/analogue out connections in the SP.
Where are you concerned about latency between? Where does the softsynth sound need to get to? Stay in the iOS device and recorded there? Just to your headphones? Or out to an analogue destination?
https://www.thomann.de/gb/maudio_midisport_uno.htm
And the Apple Camera Connection kit ... I have no experience of Bluetooth. I'm an old cable guy. You won't get any latency from something like that ..
Alternatively, buy a new usb-based MIDI keyboard - they are cheap these days.
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Yamaha themselves refer to “low latency” in their advertising. As for my intended use, I am talking about playing it live - into an amp. I'm very familiar with playing VSTIs like this with a PC host, so my experience is one of ASIO drivers etc and tweaking everything to reduce the latency. On my PC, I use an old Behringer UCA200 external USB sound card with ASIO drivers. Therefore, I’m seeing the Sonicport as a similar device.
From what you say, the output of the Sonicport is, in effect, identical in timing and (maybe) quality to the headphone output on the iPad itself.
All I want to do is play softsynths live with little latency. If I can achieve that with a wired USB MIDI interface (which I already have) via a camera connection kit and take the audio from the headphone socket then great, all I need to buy is the camera connection kit. What I am a bit concerned about is the battery life.... if the USB MIDI interface is powered from the iPad’s battery and I can’t charge it simultaneously (because I’m using the iPad socket already for the camera kit), then would it last a full gig with room to spare ?
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It *should* be fine powering the USB/midi thing from the iOS/CCK but occasionally you hear of issues - I'd just go for it.
there are reviews online showing the PUC+ in use
Downside is is the iPad doesn't get charged when in use like this.
I know bugger all about connecting things to IOS devices. How does it recognise it as a MIDI interface ? Does it need drivers ? If so, I'm stuffed as there are no IOS drivers on Roland's site (who now own Edirol). How does it work ? I don't believe it's just going to go "Oh, I've found a MIDI interface.... I've set that up fine... now off you go".
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By far and away the easiest option for your iPad 3 is this widget: http://www.esi-audio.com/products/midintourcx/ but I think it's been discontinued since the Lightning connector came along.
https://www.thomann.de/gb/maudio_midisport_uno.htm
Check the video I posted above.
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