dremmel newb

SO I need to move the brackets on the door for an integrated washing machine down by an inch or so. However the bracks are attached by inch and a hlf diameter metal plugs whihc are recessed into the door bout a cm deep or so.

Last time i tried doing something like this i used a dremel to try to rout a sutable hole but what i found was that i nearly set the door on fire rather than actually manage to cut anything, I basically kind of burnt out a roughly correct shaped hole in the end.

I assume im doing something dreadfully wrong, like using the wrong bit or something like that so could anyone give me some dremelling pointers
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  • chillidoggychillidoggy Frets: 17137
    Have you thought about using a hole-saw of the correct diameter?  A photo would help, though.


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  • MistergMisterg Frets: 353
    edited August 2013
    Usually you need a 35mm Forstner bit or a dedicated cupboard hinge drill:

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    but they wouldn't fit in your Dremel(!) (& a bit dodgy to use without a drill press).

    Chipboard (I assume) is tough on bits, and they need to be sharp, so a carbide bit would be best IMHO.

    I don't see anything wrong with trying to rout it out with a Dremel, but use a template to get the shape accurate and take it slowly to avoid burning (cut depth and feed rate, not motor speed)
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  • PolarityManPolarityMan Frets: 7300
    I hadn't heard of the existence of either forstener bits or hole saws so I hadn't considered either :)

    What's the deal with needing a drill press? Is it just to keep the door from moving while drilling?
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  • bertiebertie Frets: 13572
    its to make sure you have a perpendicular "hole" for the hinge to sit in
    just because you don't, doesn't mean you can't
     just because you do, doesn't mean you should.
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  • WezVWezV Frets: 16790
    where you using a grinding bit in the dremel.  with a mini router bit you shoudl be able to do what you want... not neatly though
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  • PolarityManPolarityMan Frets: 7300
    ok cool, im still tempted to risk it without but I'll see how expensive they are.

    I wanted to check it wasnt tos top you embedding the drill bit in your leg or something before contemplating using without :)
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  • PolarityManPolarityMan Frets: 7300
    WezV said:
    where you using a grinding bit in the dremel.  with a mini router bit you shoudl be able to do what you want... not neatly though
    I'll tell you tomorrow when I have it out...I think it was this one: http://www.dremel.com/en-us/Accessories/Pages/ProductDetail.aspx?pid=640 but it could have equally been one of these http://www.dremel.com/en-us/Accessories/Pages/ProductDetail.aspx?pid=121

    It was about 8 months ago and the dremmel hasnt been out to play since :)
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  • bertiebertie Frets: 13572
    id say both of those arent good.  You need a flat 'bed' to the hole, otherwise the hinge is likely not to sit properly
    just because you don't, doesn't mean you can't
     just because you do, doesn't mean you should.
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  • MistergMisterg Frets: 353
    Something like this:

    http://www.dremel.com/en-us/Accessories/Pages/ProductDetail.aspx?pid=9901

    with the Dremel in some sort of router base (do they come with one?) to control the depth and some sort of template to control the outline.

    (The drill press for the 35mm bits is to keep the hole square and avoid the drill jamming if you wobble off-line. I've got away with using Forstner bits in an electric drill before now, though - it's probably the way I'd do it. Just make sure the centre point doesn't break through!).


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  • DiscoStuDiscoStu Frets: 5556
    Alternatively, get a man in.
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  • PolarityManPolarityMan Frets: 7300
    DiscoStu said:
    Alternatively, get a man in.
    What are you saying? :D
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  • chillidoggychillidoggy Frets: 17137

    This has all the makings of an Emp/Chilli procrastination project.


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  • PolarityManPolarityMan Frets: 7300
    Nahh I got a deadline so it'll be getting done, even if it means bodging it and setting the cabinet door on fire.

    Fence fixing first though.  :(
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  • chillidoggychillidoggy Frets: 17137
    Deadlines. Pfft!


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  • bertiebertie Frets: 13572

    This has all the makings of an Emp/Chilli procrastination project.

    It has all the makings of a Noisepoluter guitar modification project
    just because you don't, doesn't mean you can't
     just because you do, doesn't mean you should.
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  • PolarityManPolarityMan Frets: 7300
    Well fence is up but had to move the fence line a bit as one of the old fence posts seems to have been set in concrete 4 miles deep
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  • PolarityManPolarityMan Frets: 7300
    Well fence is up but had to move the fence line a bit as one of the old fence posts seems to have been set in concrete 4 miles deep
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