Has Trump started WW3

thumpingrug

Are the cruise missile attacks on Syria the start of something bigger.   Will the Russians retaliate on behalf of Assad or do they support the strike.  

Drew_TNBD

Find out, next week!!! *roll credits*

sweepy

The speech Trump made last night was an incoherent mess stating "beautiful babies died horribly" and invoking God etc etc, the 12 digited webbed footed Trump voters probably lapped it up

boogieman

There was a US general interviewed yesterday who was saying that Obama's policy of appeasement towards Assad didn't work and that the US needed to show some strength by using cruise missiles on selective targets. I guessed from that statement that it was fairly inevitable; Trump has always shown he's politically aggressive, he's hardly going to say no to the military option. I do wonder though if he's got the mental capacity to realise the long term consequences? Or maybe he just doesn't give a shit. 

mike_l

boogieman said:

Obama's policy of appeasement towards Assad

Appeasement doesn't work.
See the rise of Hitler for proof.

These dictatorial leaders rule by fear, which makes them bullies. Bullies do not like when someone fights back.

TheBlueWolf

I assume you've all seen Trump behaving like a child in that truck.

He's also got the nuclear codes....

HAL9000

TheBlueWolf said:

I assume you've all seen Trump behaving like a child in that truck.

https://media2.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2017_12/1942826/170323-trump-truck-white-house-636p_0010a810c277423f29fba2c33b773261.nbcnews-fp-1200-800.jpg

Hell! Yeah! 

HAL9000

TheBlueWolf said:

He's also got the nuclear codes....

Aren't they more than 140 characters long though?

Emp_Fab

It's an opportunity he was unlikely to ignore.  The chance to show some teeth, silence, at least briefly, the growing criticism that he's just Putin's poodle and take credit for what most of the world will see as a justified response to the use of chemical weapons.

TheBlueWolf

HAL9000 said:

TheBlueWolf said:

He's also got the nuclear codes....

Aren't they more than 140 characters long though?

Hmmm, time to have tantrums on Facebook maybe *shudder*

merlin

VimFuego

no, he hasn't started WW3, he's launched a few cruise missiles. This is not the automatic start to something bigger, however once shooting starts it's much easier to start something bigger.

Steffo

I can't believe I'm saying this, but this is the first time that Trump has done or said something and I thought: well done.

Russia will make noise but behind doors Trump and Putin are probably as close as the Chuckle Brothers.

Sambostar

I think it's excellent Trump is President.  Now all we need is full on thermonuclear war.  You all believed the propaganda about Assad using gas, not only once but twice, the veil of lies is so thin now it's like a burr veneer with the truth shining through like too much glue, you don't even have to peel it away to find that the world is made of MDF anymore.  Bring it on. 

Fretwired

Trump fired a few cruise missiles at a Syrian airbase - it's hardly the start of WW3. Russia doesn't actually like Assad, but he supports Russia which wants to retain influence in the region. This war will rumble on for years. Nobody will start firing nuclear missiles over Syria. WW3 will most likely start in Europe as states that border Russia apply to join the EU and tensions rise - see Ukraine.

Sambostar

Whatever happens you can always trust the BBC to soften us up for it first.

hotpot

Time to get the beers in to watch the blonde bimbo try to outdumb Bush's exploits.

Steffo

Fretwired said:

Trump fired a few cruise missiles at a Syrian airbase - it's hardly the start of WW3. Russia doesn't actually like Assad, but he supports Russia which wants to retain influence in the region. This war will rumble on for years. Nobody will start firing nuclear missiles over Syria. WW3 will most likely start in Europe as states that border Russia apply to join the EU and tensions rise - see Ukraine.

Yes, either Ukraine or North Corea are more likely to start something serious.

HAL9000

Sambostar said:

You all believed the propaganda about Assad using gas, not only once but twice, the veil of lies is so thin now it's like a burr veneer with the truth shining through like too much glue...

Who do you think did it then? Bear in mind that witnesses saw the Syrian warplanes, and that it has been admitted that Syrian warplanes were targeting rebel positions in the area.

VimFuego

HAL9000 said:

Sambostar said:

You all believed the propaganda about Assad using gas, not only once but twice, the veil of lies is so thin now it's like a burr veneer with the truth shining through like too much glue...

Who do you think did it then? Bear in mind that witnesses saw the Syrian warplanes, and that it has been admitted that Syrian warplanes were targeting rebel positions in the area.

RT have reported that the planes hit a rebel held warehouse that contained chemical weapons. Personally I don't trust RT, but there were reports from the UN back when chemcial weapons were 1st used that rebel forces has used chemical weapons.

I don't trust RT but I also don't trust our government, who have been shown to lie, and our media, who have been shown to collude with the government. All we know for certain is that people have died as a result of chemical weapons.

ICBM

If the gas attack was Assad's forces, Putin might even welcome the US action as a way of deterring them from such stupidity in the future, while being able to say it was nothing to do with him… and if it wasn't, then it's an unjustified American attack which will strength Putin's hand with Assad anyway. Either way, Putin wins. So then the question is whether Trump talked to him first…

I don't think war is likely in Europe over Ukraine now - Russia has increased its military presence again and the western media has barely even reported it, let alone the politicians wanting to do anything. Putin called their bluff and Merkel in particular got a very bad scare - although she was born after the war in West Germany she grew up in East Germany and knows full well what the consequences would be.

North Korea is the 'unknown unknown', but I can't see China tolerating them starting an actual war. The only real question would be whether China can stamp on them quickly enough.