I would like a JHS Angry Charlie model for the Helix

RandallFlagg

That's it really. Would save me gassing for one and having to shell out £160 and the faff of batteries, a seperate power supply or extra leads.

I demand L6 drop everything they are working on and get modelling one immediately.

stratman3142

Funny you should say that. That's the one type of overdrive/distortion I feel is missing from my Helix LT.

 I have the pedal, which used to be in my old pedal board. 

Sporky

I'd like a Valvesporker model.

monquixote

It's  essentially a guvnor clone so has it got a model for that?

timhulio

It's a Brown Sound In A Box clone, so if you fancy the challenge you can buy the kit from GGG:
http://www.generalguitargadgets.com/effects-projects/distortion/bsiab-2/

Or even easier, search eBay for one already built. Check the gutshots to make sure it isn't a total mess though.

As for the Helix, the BSIAB is supposed to sound like a small Marshall amp, so there must be a patch that sounds pretty close.

RandallFlagg

monquixote said:

It's  essentially a guvnor clone so has it got a model for that?

Nope

RandallFlagg

timhulio said:

It's a Brown Sound In A Box clone, so if you fancy the challenge you can buy the kit from GGG:
http://www.generalguitargadgets.com/effects-projects/distortion/bsiab-2/

Or even easier, search eBay for one already built. Check the gutshots to make sure it isn't a total mess though.

As for the Helix, the BSIAB is supposed to sound like a small Marshall amp, so there must be a patch that sounds pretty close.

I want a drive model of an Angry Charlie to use as affect only into the front of a valve amp. I'm using Helix as effects only with no amp (as well as direct) 

stratman3142

There doesn't appear to be a 'Marshall in a box' type distortion. The closest appears to be the OCD which is too mid scooped for my taste (that comment applies to the actual OCD pedal as well). Maybe it's possible to get there by adding some EQ or by using an actual amp model instead of a pedal.

Jonathanthomas83

timhulio said:

It's a Brown Sound In A Box clone, so if you fancy the challenge you can buy the kit from GGG:
http://www.generalguitargadgets.com/effects-projects/distortion/bsiab-2/

Or even easier, search eBay for one already built. Check the gutshots to make sure it isn't a total mess though.

As for the Helix, the BSIAB is supposed to sound like a small Marshall amp, so there must be a patch that sounds pretty close.

This ^ 

Since getting the Fractal, I've found amp models are 100% better than a drive that tries to emulate them. I only ever used MIABs to emulate a JCM800...now I just use a JCM800 model. Shocks me and sends me into heaven every time I turn it on!

RandallFlagg

Jonathanthomas83 said:

timhulio said:

It's a Brown Sound In A Box clone, so if you fancy the challenge you can buy the kit from GGG:
http://www.generalguitargadgets.com/effects-projects/distortion/bsiab-2/

Or even easier, search eBay for one already built. Check the gutshots to make sure it isn't a total mess though.

As for the Helix, the BSIAB is supposed to sound like a small Marshall amp, so there must be a patch that sounds pretty close.

This ^ 

Since getting the Fractal, I've found amp models are 100% better than a drive that tries to emulate them. I only ever used MIABs to emulate a JCM800...now I just use a JCM800 model. Shocks me and sends me into heaven every time I turn it on!

Not a solution in from of a valve amp though, but I agree for direct.

RandallFlagg

stratman3142 said:

There doesn't appear to be a 'Marshall in a box' type distortion. The closest appears to be the OCD which is too mid scooped for my taste (that comment applies to the actual OCD pedal as well). Maybe it's possible to get there by adding some EQ or by using an actual amp model instead of a pedal.

Agreed, I find the OCD too scooped, I want a little bit of mid push. That's what's so good about the Angry Charlie, it has a great mid range to it.

Jonathanthomas83

RandallFlagg said:

Jonathanthomas83 said:

timhulio said:

It's a Brown Sound In A Box clone, so if you fancy the challenge you can buy the kit from GGG:
http://www.generalguitargadgets.com/effects-projects/distortion/bsiab-2/

Or even easier, search eBay for one already built. Check the gutshots to make sure it isn't a total mess though.

As for the Helix, the BSIAB is supposed to sound like a small Marshall amp, so there must be a patch that sounds pretty close.

This ^ 

Since getting the Fractal, I've found amp models are 100% better than a drive that tries to emulate them. I only ever used MIABs to emulate a JCM800...now I just use a JCM800 model. Shocks me and sends me into heaven every time I turn it on!

Not a solution in from of a valve amp though, but I agree for direct.

Ah yeah, didn't think about that. You're right there. If the helix allows you to use the preamp of a JCM800 and turn the power section off, could try that into a clean amp?

hubobulous

I'm sure I read that the preamp only versions in the Helix could also be used like a stomp box. Might be worth trying?

RandallFlagg

You can use amp with no cab but it's pre-amp and power amp, you don't get pre-amp only in Helix.

Cabicular

RandallFlagg said:

You can use amp with no cab but it's pre-amp and power amp, you don't get pre-amp only in Helix.

Yes you do!
look at your Helix!

Cabicular

Although it sounds better using the pre/power combo
use the mod 2204 with a tube screamer or klon in front of it
That does the trick

UnclePsychosis

Is there a Crunch Box model?

Cabicular

UnclePsychosis said:

Is there a Crunch Box model?

You need a Kemper for that

Cabicular

stratman3142 said:

There doesn't appear to be a 'Marshall in a box' type distortion. The closest appears to be the OCD which is too mid scooped for my taste (that comment applies to the actual OCD pedal as well). Maybe it's possible to get there by adding some EQ or by using an actual amp model instead of a pedal.

There is an actual Marshall in the box though

fretmeister

As said...

Just use a preamp model from the Helix. I use them as pedal fx all the time.

ThePrettyDamned

RandallFlagg said:

timhulio said:

It's a Brown Sound In A Box clone, so if you fancy the challenge you can buy the kit from GGG:
http://www.generalguitargadgets.com/effects-projects/distortion/bsiab-2/

Or even easier, search eBay for one already built. Check the gutshots to make sure it isn't a total mess though.

As for the Helix, the BSIAB is supposed to sound like a small Marshall amp, so there must be a patch that sounds pretty close.

I want a drive model of an Angry Charlie to use as affect only into the front of a valve amp. I'm using Helix as effects only with no amp (as well as direct) 

Just use a Marshall preamp model. It'll probably do the guvnor/bsiab thing better than the pedal. Don't include cab sim.