Two modern-day guitar heroes at the top of their game...plus 'Burst' Porn...

IvisonGuitars

Greg Koch and JD Simo are modern day guitar heroes and should be as revered as Clapton, Page, Beck etc IMHO of course....

This is just sublime:

Jack_

Except Clapton, Page and Beck made great songs.

IvisonGuitars

Jack_ said:

Except Clapton, Page and Beck made great songs.

Fair point.

richardhomer

Jack_ said:

Except Clapton, Page and Beck made great songs.

True up to a point - though arguably not at all in Beck's case.

I've heard  Sunshine of Your Love while driving the other day and was struck by what an awful song it is - and how little I like Jack Bruce's voice.

I think there's a tendency to romanticise some music - which in truth hasn't stood the test of time particularly well.

Jack_

richardhomer said:

Jack_ said:

Except Clapton, Page and Beck made great songs.

True up to a point - though arguably not at all in Beck's case.

I've heard  Sunshine of Your Love while driving the other day and was struck by what an awful song it is - and how little I like Jack Bruce's voice.

I think there's a tendency to romanticise some music - which in truth hasn't stood the rest of time particularly well.

You're not going to debate Page though are you? Who might have one of the largest repertoires of quality and timeless songs to his name.

IvisonGuitars

Jack_ said:

richardhomer said:

Jack_ said:

Except Clapton, Page and Beck made great songs.

True up to a point - though arguably not at all in Beck's case.

I've heard  Sunshine of Your Love while driving the other day and was struck by what an awful song it is - and how little I like Jack Bruce's voice.

I think there's a tendency to romanticise some music - which in truth hasn't stood the rest of time particularly well.

You're not going to debate Page though are you? Who might have one of the largest repertoires of quality and timeless songs to his name.

I've always found Zepplin far too self indulgent and never rated Page much either....but thats just me.

Jack_

Some people are hard to please.

Bucket

Jack_ said:

You're not going to debate Page though are you? Who might have one of the largest repertoires of quality and timeless songs to his name.

A number of "his" best ones are plagiarised from other artists.

proggy

richardhomer said:

Jack_ said:

Except Clapton, Page and Beck made great songs.

True up to a point - though arguably not at all in Beck's case.

I've heard  Sunshine of Your Love while driving the other day and was struck by what an awful song it is - and how little I like Jack Bruce's voice.

I think there's a tendency to romanticise some music - which in truth hasn't stood the rest of time particularly well.

Agreed. But I would, I've never liked Cream.

peteri

richardhomer said:

Jack_ said:

Except Clapton, Page and Beck made great songs.

True up to a point - though arguably not at all in Beck's case.

I've heard  Sunshine of Your Love while driving the other day and was struck by what an awful song it is - and how little I like Jack Bruce's voice.

I think there's a tendency to romanticise some music - which in truth hasn't stood the rest of time particularly well.

Completely agree.

Amazingly it was only last year I heard the 'Beano' album for the first time, was completely unblown away.

If a band played that now, it would be pub rock at best. It is notable not for the playing but for it's moment in time. Which, if truth be told, contains a little bit of unpleasantness about it - since these were basically white guys getting played when black guys couldn't

Jack_

Only on this forum could we descend into a debate where we put down so many of the all time greats.

richardhomer

Jack_ said:
You're not going to debate Page though are you? Who might have one of the largest repertoires of quality and timeless songs to his name.

No, I'm not going to debate Page.

I've always thought Zep made dreadful racket - not my thing at all....

Sassafras

If the song doesn't grab me it doesn't matter how good the guitar playing is.
I find flashy virtuosity a bit dull and self-indulgent.

HAL9000

richardhomer said:

Jack_ said:

Except Clapton, Page and Beck made great songs.

True up to a point - though arguably not at all in Beck's case.

I've heard  Sunshine of Your Love while driving the other day and was struck by what an awful song it is - and how little I like Jack Bruce's voice.

I think there's a tendency to romanticise some music - which in truth hasn't stood the rest of time particularly well.

^This. Cream always sounded to me like brilliant musicians in search of a half-decent tune. Clapton himself has penned some great songs but generally post Cream. Agree re Sunshine. Great riff which any writer would have felt rightfully smug about, but a dire song.

Skipped

I can't see the clip and my search for it has  thrown up another clip featuring these two.

 JD Simo seems determined to thrill half of the people watching him and to annoy the other half. I am in the first category.
I am not making a direct comparison between his playing and the young Eric Clapton (and I am sure miserneil was not doing that) but the fire and passion on show here is comparable.
If he is inspired by playing a 50s Les Paul (that is thankfully not confined to a display case)......I get that completely.

In fact I am shutting down the Laptop to play for 20 minutes at this late hour.
Because - it is impossible to resist.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvJD3oKsxsg

Bucket

Jack_ said:

Only on this forum could we descend into a debate where we put down so many of the all time greats.

Ah, come on - why should they be immune from criticism? My comment about Page's plagiarism is provable fact, and it has always annoyed me that he seldom gets pulled up on it. Why should he get a free ride?

robinbowes

Jack_ said:

Only on this forum could we descend into a debate where we put down so many of the all time greats.

Yeah, some people on here are frankly clueless. Or can't express themselves very well.

What you've got to remember is that I could play "Stairway To Heaven" when I was 12. Jimmy Page didn't actually write it until he was 22.

R.

Fretwired

Modern day .. Greg's in his 50's .. not exactly a spring chicken .. :-)

Bucket

Skipped said:

In fact I am shutting down the Laptop to play for 20 minutes at this late hour.
Because - it is impossible to resist.

This is it.

More modern players like Greg Koch etc are more likely to make me want to pick up a guitar and play than Clapton is.

IvisonGuitars

Fretwired said:

Modern day .. Greg's in his 50's .. not exactly a spring chicken .. :-)

I'd be careful saying that around here...

I dont think his age has anything to do with it, he's a player that has come to the fore in recent years thanks, in part, to YouTube etc so I'd class him as a modern player. 

I just looked up how old JD Simo is to further prove my point....and he's 32....that's just f*cking depressing...!!

richardhomer

robinbowes said:
What you've got to remember is that I could play "Stairway To Heaven" when I was 12. Jimmy Page didn't actually write it.

R.

FTFY