eBay Content: Grandad's Strat(s)

Octafish

All seems very iffy and if you do a Google image search this comes up - 2nd pic down. When you look at the same pic on the ebay ad you can see to the right of the guitar where the text "vintageoneguitars.com" has been crudely covered up, you can still make out a faint "com".

Bridgehouse

Octafish said:

All seems very iffy and if you do a Google image search this comes up - 2nd pic down. When you look at the same pic on the ebay ad you can see to the right of the guitar where the text "vintageoneguitars.com" has been crudely covered up, you can still make out a faint "com".

Hercule Octafish

bgmartinsbridge

Def the same image - booom

jimmyguitar

Great detective work! I just found matching pictures of the 56.
http://www.swingmusic.net/1956_Fender_Stratocaster.html

Jez6345789

I am pretty sure these are scams

but if you followed the sale of my old seemingly collectible  911. It was up and down like a whores draws.  

It would seem criminal types have or had away of ending an auction then claiming they were the highest bidder. Then threatening the seller with legal action if they did not accept their bid as legal and contractually binding I had several hours with EBay security who were totally tight lipped and would obviously confirm or deny nothing other than placate me that this would affect my eBay standing it took 3 listings before they shut that off but made the sale look very dodgy.

also had the crims firing off legal letters to release the goods paid for then got our phone numbers and address and threatened to send the boys round to collect property legally there’s. Blah blah scared the mrs to the point where I promised I would not be so stupid to list anything of that value again on eBay.

all the way through eBay would never admit they could finish an auction but they had a way. This was 4 Year’s ago so think they hav3 closed that loophole or got the inside man.

but still made for a doggy listing

ICBM

Octafish said:

All seems very iffy and if you do a Google image search this comes up - 2nd pic down. When you look at the same pic on the ebay ad you can see to the right of the guitar where the text "vintageoneguitars.com" has been crudely covered up, you can still make out a faint "com".

Bingo. Well found .

jimmyguitar said:

Great detective work! I just found matching pictures of the 56.
http://www.swingmusic.net/1956_Fender_Stratocaster.html

Ditto. You'll also see that the pics have been deliberately doctored, most obviously by making the carpet blue - but the pics of the guitar are clearly the same pics, not the same guitar photographed in a different place.

bgmartinsbridge

https://imgur.com/gallery/wPVhX

Just checking through old guitar mags and came across issue 2 total guitar from 1995!!

Check out the vintage guitar prices at Music Ground...

jimmyguitar

bgmartinsbridge said:

https://imgur.com/gallery/wPVhX

Just checking through old guitar mags and came across issue 2 total guitar from 1995!!

Check out the vintage guitar prices at Music Ground...

It’s amazing what they could charge for a forgery in those days!

Octafish

ICBM said:

Octafish said:

All seems very iffy and if you do a Google image search this comes up - 2nd pic down. When you look at the same pic on the ebay ad you can see to the right of the guitar where the text "vintageoneguitars.com" has been crudely covered up, you can still make out a faint "com".

Bingo. Well found .

jimmyguitar said:

Great detective work! I just found matching pictures of the 56.
http://www.swingmusic.net/1956_Fender_Stratocaster.html

Ditto. You'll also see that the pics have been deliberately doctored, most obviously by making the carpet blue - but the pics of the guitar are clearly the same pics, not the same guitar photographed in a different place.

I assume someone obtained the 64 pic from www.vintageoneguitars.com at some point in the past? There's no sign of the guitar on their website and the one in the link I posted is too low resolution. Makes me wonder if there's a business in harvesting pics of collectible high value items to sell on as 'scamming packs' to other scammers?

Octafish

bgmartinsbridge said:

https://imgur.com/gallery/wPVhX

Just checking through old guitar mags and came across issue 2 total guitar from 1995!!

Check out the vintage guitar prices at Music Ground...

That's funny, I too was looking at early 90s copies of Guitar Magazine the other day and noticed Pre-CBS Fenders up for £1500-£2000, then saw the ad was for Music Ground

poopot

Ok... assuming that these listings are scams... and it does look that way...

How does it work? Surely no one is going to fork out that sort of dosh without actually seeing the guitar first... and if someone goes to see that guitar before the listing ends I’m guessing they will do the deal outside of eBay!.

so how are the scammers getting paid here?... 

andrewaward

^^ they'll be hoping someone bank transfers them the money - as the would be buyer will be offered the guitar(s) at a great unmissable price.............and the scammers would then post the guitars to the new buyer - and obviously will never arrive.........the scammers are just fishing with the ebay auctions

rico

poopot said:

Ok... assuming that these listings are scams... and it does look that way...

How does it work? Surely no one is going to fork out that sort of dosh without actually seeing the guitar first... and if someone goes to see that guitar before the listing ends I’m guessing they will do the deal outside of eBay!.

so how are the scammers getting paid here?... 

I've mentioned this before but I think it would be interesting to get a face-to-face deal set up and see what unfolds...

ICBM

poopot said:

Ok... assuming that these listings are scams... and it does look that way...

How does it work? Surely no one is going to fork out that sort of dosh without actually seeing the guitar first... and if someone goes to see that guitar before the listing ends I’m guessing they will do the deal outside of eBay!.

so how are the scammers getting paid here?... 

I expect they’re going to ask for something like a bank transfer or Paypal Gift as a deposit to ‘secure’ the deal - from a hijacked account, it will be difficult to trace - and then disappear.

They’re relying on the sort of people who wet themselves whenever something like this pops up from an apparently ‘non trade’ source with a back story involving dead relatives...

mikeyrob73

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1956-Fender-Stratocaster-09-serial-number-B-grade-all-original/282770950227?hash=item41d6764853:g:8U4AAOSw~HBaLKpN

its back 

TonyR

jimmyguitar said:

Great detective work! I just found matching pictures of the 56.
http://www.swingmusic.net/1956_Fender_Stratocaster.html

Very dodgy...

Armed with those pictures it's very easy to see what a shit job has been made doctoring them to those that are in the listing.

Wouldn't touch it with  a bargepole - but then again I wouldn't spend that amount of money on a guitar on eBay!

IvisonGuitars

How much did you bid then @Gassage ;;?!

SNAKEBITE

I don't care how dodgy it seems, he got me reeled in when he listed "Volume Knob" under the "Features" section.

Gassage

miserneil said:

How much did you bid then @Gassage ;;?!

Not me...my mate.

Philly_Q

Slightly off-topic, but I saw these two Tokai Flying Vs on eBay yesterday.

The first is currently listed at a rather optimistic $2,150.  The second has already "sold" for $455.  

Somebody is going to be disappointed....