Is this a good deal for a Gibson 2015 Les Paul Less Plus

Bluebeard

£500 for a new Gibson 2015 Les Paul Less Plus complete with robot tuners, dodgy nut etc. 
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Gibson-LPLP15HSNH1-Less-Electric-Guitar/dp/B00NAVTVQA/ref=sr_1_1?m=ALJV2PISEW1RV&s=merchant-items&ie=UTF8&qid=1520513884&sr=1-1&refinements=p_4%3AGibson&dpID=31BJY4El5EL&preST=_SY300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch

Has anybody played one? Are the 2015 upgrades/features really that bad?

crunchman

I know someone who has one.  I think she paid full price for it.  I never had the heart to tell her how much they were getting blown out for in the Black Friday sale that year.  This is cheaper still!  She seems happy with it though.

The original nut/zero fret thing was a problem as it was too soft.  I know Gibson were providing a titanium replacement for it, which seems to be better.

The other things are mainly a matter of personal preference.  Some people like the wide neck - others don't.

Again, some people seem to like the robo-tuners while others don't.  At that price you could buy it and replace them with conventional tuners if you want.  You would get something back on the robo-tuners on Feebay so it wouldn't cost you a fortune.

No-one seems to like the dodgy Les Paul 100 signature.  Some people are willing to put up with it, while other think it's so hideous that it puts them off the guitar completely.  Given that you are asking the question you probably aren't one of those who thinks it's so hideous that you wouldn't buy the guitar.  Alternatively, you could always buy it and put a piece of tape over the signature!

Jack_

Sold by a company with no feedback...

Teetonetal

The 2015's are fine.

The robo tuners work well, the neck is fine for me, I actually like it. Gibson wil lreplace the dodgy nut for a proper one for free on proof of purchase and t's fine.

Bluebeard

Jack_ said:

Sold by a company with no feedback...

Yeah I have to say that and the low price makes me worried! They don't seem to sell any other guitars on the storefront either. Isn't it still safer going through amazon then ebay, gumtree etc?

Moltisanti

these routinely go for about £600 used on Ebay, so £500 for a new one is a good buy.

no idea about the seller though...

Bluebeard

Thanks for all your advice. I have just ordered it after some consultation and finally approval from the wife. I have always wanted a Gibson Les Paul and although ideally I wouldn't have picked this thinner model or the tuners I do like the look. Fingers crossed this is a genuine brand new guitar and not Bstock or used etc. I have had good experience with Amazons refund policy in the past so I am confident I can return it if there is something wrong. I am going to give it a thorough inspection and post some pics here when it arrives.

Musicman20

Amazon's service is stellar. They will help you no matter what.

Musicman20

Is this the seller?

https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/08745337

Teetonetal

Hope you love it! The Tuners are really easy to remove and change if you need to as well.

JerkMoans

Looks great.  Amazon are virtually bomb proof in their customer service.  I've recently acquired one of the much-reviled 2015 models in the form of an LP double cut and think it's pretty good, especially for the money.  I've got Grovers on order because the automatic tuners bug me, and have the replacement titanium nut that Gibson send out on request so if I get issues with the brass one it should be an easy swap.  Otherwise it's a cracking guitar, with the niggles easily remediable, and a cracking deal for you.  Enjoy!

martinw

That looks like a good deal.

One of the reviews made me laugh:
"It's a Gibson, what else is there to say?"

Not someone off here then!   

Musicman20

What happens to the titanium nut?

danishbacon

Looks like a scam. These were 7-8 during the black friday sales if I recall correctly. NOT sold by amazon.

JerkMoans

Musicman20 said:

What happens to the titanium nut?

It gets inserted at the end of the fretboard to replace the factory brass nut.  The brass one is the problem in some cases: the metal is relatively soft and gets worn away/scored pretty quickly, especially with protracted use of the robot tuners.

JerkMoans

danishbacon said:

Looks like a scam. These were 7-8 during the black friday sales if I recall correctly. NOT sold by amazon.

Yes.  I 'got' a Jazzmaster with Bigsby for some stupidly low price.  Or rather, didn't

No probs as Amazon refunded the dosh within a day or two.  I don't think this LP is so stupidly cheap as to scream obvious scam.  Hope not, anyway.

SteveRobinson

martinw said:

One of the reviews made me laugh:
"It's a Gibson, what else is there to say?"

Not someone off here then!   

I suppose you could take that either way.

SteveRobinson

Jack_ said:

Sold by a company with no feedback...

Should the fact that they are also selling camera lenses raise a red flag? 

webrthomson

I got one of these from amazon on their 2016 black Friday blow out - I quite liked it in all respects except for the shoulders on the neck profile made it more D change that I'm comfortable with, the only other criticism I had was the thinner body does not really drop the weight of the guitar that much, however on the upside neither did it make the guitar sound any different from a full fat LP.

Ultimately I moved it on as I did not gel with the neck profile but it was still a good guitar and I hope you love it!

rico

If it does indeed arrive, let us know what the balance is like!

Bluebeard

Musicman20 said:

Is this the seller?

https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/08745337

No idea. There is an ebay store with the same name as well but no link in terms of what items are being sold. It is ringing alarm bells that would put me way off if this was on ebay.

Teetonetal said:

Hope you love it! The Tuners are really easy to remove and change if you need to as well.

Thanks. I hoping the quick tuning will give me the urge to learn some rolling stones

JerkMoans said:

Looks great.  Amazon are virtually bomb proof in their customer service.  I've recently acquired one of the much-reviled 2015 models in the form of an LP double cut and think it's pretty good, especially for the money.  I've got Grovers on order because the automatic tuners bug me, and have the replacement titanium nut that Gibson send out on request so if I get issues with the brass one it should be an easy swap.  Otherwise it's a cracking guitar, with the niggles easily remediable, and a cracking deal for you.  Enjoy!

Cheers

danishbacon said:

Looks like a scam. These were 7-8 during the black friday sales if I recall correctly. NOT sold by amazon.

Yeah I am really nervous

webrthomson said:

I got one of these from amazon on their 2016 black Friday blow out - I quite liked it in all respects except for the shoulders on the neck profile made it more D change that I'm comfortable with, the only other criticism I had was the thinner body does not really drop the weight of the guitar that much, however on the upside neither did it make the guitar sound any different from a full fat LP.

Ultimately I moved it on as I did not gel with the neck profile but it was still a good guitar and I hope you love it!

Thanks

rico said:

If it does indeed arrive, let us know what the balance is like!

Will do