PSA: Ebay fail of the week.....

SimpleSimon

Genuine American Gibson...hmmmmm wrong, wrong, wrong.....

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Genuine-American-Gibson-sg-2001-Cherry-Guitar/192524004080?hash=item2cd3532af0:g:IewAAOSwx8pa37F2

BloodEagle

Go on then, what’s so wrong with it? Edit - genuine question, I can’t see anything glaring except the shape of the scratch plate 

ICBM

BloodEagle said:

Go on then, what’s so wrong with it? Edit - genuine question, I can’t see anything glaring except the shape of the scratch plate 

The bridge - posts too large, saddles too tall/pointed and lower 3 saddles backwards (Gibson only have lower 2 backwards); jack - nut too small and probably no washer; no binding nibs (yes, some Gibsons don't have them but added to the bridge this becomes another indicator); serial number and Made In USA stamps aren't right (look like they've been branded in after the finish was done).

SimpleSimon

BloodEagle said:

Go on then, what’s so wrong with it? Edit - genuine question, I can’t see anything glaring except the shape of the scratch plate 

Which i guess is the same for alot of people. The headstock shape is all wrong, the seriel number/made in usa lettering, the Gibson logo placement, TRC, the horn cutaways, the nibs and binding, the heel, the hardware and the finish are all completly wrong. So many people must get stung on this sort of thing.

carlos

Would a USA Gibson have the tuners out of alignment like that? I know their QC is spotty, but come on.

ICBM

carlos said:

Would a USA Gibson have the tuners out of alignment like that? I know their QC is spotty, but come on.

Yes, very often.

Funkfingers

It's a Chibson.

The tuners are Asian. In fact, just about everything in the conveniently out-of-focus photographs is Asian.

The closest thing to Gibson on the entire guitar is the legend embossed into the tuner gear cases. (Easily faked.) The putrid green tint of the keystone buttons is pure Jin-Ho.

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Perhaps, if enough of us send eBay messages to the vendor, he will play nice and correct the item title/description? 


EDIT: I have now played devil's advocate by requesting that the vendor upload some sharper photographs of the Chibson copy electric guitar.

Judging by the randomness of the seller's other items, it is entirely plausible that he is not a specialist in musical equipment. He could have been as badly taken in by the Chibson as he hopes others will be. 

£370 (reserve not met) on an item that you can almost certainly get BNIB for less. [:banghead emoji]

boogieman

No mention of the fact it’s got aftermarket p90s fitted? Either the seller knows it’s a duffer or he’s completely ignorant about guitars. 

Hattigol

He's got a door for sale.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/UPVC-Front-door-Back-door/192519983676?hash=item2cd315d23c:g:~I8AAOSwbJla3l6c

He's so dodgy, I'm not even convinced it's a genuine door. I think it may be a window that he has just tarted up with some wood.

Gagaryn

Hattigol said:

He's got a door for sale.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/UPVC-Front-door-Back-door/192519983676?hash=item2cd315d23c:g:~I8AAOSwbJla3l6c

He's so dodgy, I'm not even convinced it's a genuine door. I think it may be a window that he has just tarted up with some wood.

When is a door not a door?

When it's ajar. :-)

JezWynd

Funny how the listing is headed with 'Genuine'. As if there's any other kind of Gibson SG.

Funkfingers

I received a reply from the vendor. Apparently, he would "have to look into that" and believed the guitar to be genuine. 

No new, sharply-focused photographs have been uploaded. It is We safe to assume that the vendor is acting dumb in the full knowledge that he is passing off a copy as the genuine article.

It is my fondest wish that the eBay reserve price process will save anyone from getting ripped off. 

SimpleSimon

Yeah he dodged my observations too, Ebay arent interested as they havent taken down the listing after i notified them its a counterfeit item.....

Funkfingers

eBay will claim that they cannot *see* the photographs of the offending item. This, at the same time as managing perfectly well to see photographs of personal contact details that happen to be lurking amongst item photographs.

The official line is, the buyer must lodge a complaint about misdescription and/or counterfeit goods AND back it up. eBay does not give a flying one so long as they (and PayPal) get their pound of flesh.

If the hapless buyer eventually has to claim a refund, eBay pays out from money taken from decent traders.

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I realise that it must seem prejudiced but, as soon as I see Liverpool given as an eBay item location, I leave the page and search elsewhere.

thegummy

Funkfingers said:

I realise that it must seem prejudiced but, as soon as I see Liverpool given as an eBay item location, I leave the page and search elsewhere.

Barnezy

Buy it using PayPal and an Amex. When it arrives file a complaint that's its counterfeit, then get an independent shop to support your case. PayPal will freeze the buyers account until the matter is resolved and refund you the full amount once confirmed. You even get to keep the guitar and the seller gets nothing. If that fails then Amex can refund it also. That is if you want a Chibson for free of course.

mbe

Seller has listed a used alarm clock for £7.99 that's only £6.99 brand new in Argos.

Funkfingers

Cocaine derivatives are reputed to impair judgement.

Barnezy

I sent him a message asking if he realised it’s fake. After asking how I knew that, he responded claiming he was selling it for a friend and didn’t know.