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I would assume it's the eq curve that defines the amps characteristics?
Unless you are planning on using the fx loop/pre amp trick thingy?
The Carl Martin was just a box of filth I didn't think was Voxy at all.
The Wampler is great clean (very jangly and authentic) but I didn't much like it overdriven.
The Liverpool is a fantastic pedal clean or dirty, with immensely powerful tone controls. The cleans may be not quite up there with the Wampler, but it's close - and all-round a better sim for me.
I can get a Fender Princeton to sound very Voxy with it.
It has not killed my GAS for a Vox or el84-type amp (or another one, since I have owned a few) but it certainly staves it off
I have an old Zoom G3 and I'm surprised at how much I like the Vox AC patch on it....
To be honest I'll end up with a Vox amp one day as I absolutely LOVE the sound....but until then....
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Clone of a catlinbread galileo...
+1 for the Tech 21 Liverpool.
The character control gives you a wide range of tones and alters the gain structure, plus the EQ is very powerful. I used mine as a mid-gain drive pedal (with speaker sim turned off) into the front end of a clean amp and it did a really good job of giving the sound that Voxy character.
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I also have the old big box mains powered Carl Martin AC Tone and I agree that it doesn't quite capture the vox chime, but it still gets lots of use and has an absolutely fantastic clean boost option incorporated.
I think this is designed for direct use, and has built in speaker simulation that you can't turn off. If you want to use it in front of an amp it might not be the best option.
I think that the Tech 21 pedal that it is based on has the option of turning off the speaker sim.
It emulates a valve amp’s circuitry , including a control (amongst others) for negative feedback , and this seems to work convincingly.
ignore the 'joyo' = cheap stigma. the same parts with same tolerances soldered into the same order will give the same result. (".. & that is why i love physics" as brian cox would say).
i've got the joyo british tone, which is a dark brit-rock marshall-esque tuned preamp & tonestack in a box (based on another tech 21 i think). have had it five years, never had a problem, & still as good as they day i bought it for £20. sweet.
the basic principle is that the pre-amp (with valve subs) & tone stack go into a box & you run it through a valve amp clean power channel that will amplify (in a valve stylee) that psuedo first stage.
in the pedal the tubes will be substituted by transistors (sometimes diodes or transistors used as diodes, or a combination of, or an IC) that effectively mimic the dynamic response curve of the original valves under load, as far as is possible.
then you get the tone stack from the original amp following from that, to bracket & shape, scoop etc.
so eq is part of it, but eq on its own wouldn't be enough, as it wouldn't be getting the full pre-amped 'shaped' signal to work with.
but like boutique dirt boxes, getting it right can be a fine art, as it requires filtering the transistors to get a good balanced bias between minimum tolerances (hfe, forward voltage). just as with a valve amp. but far less effort that valve amps i think, as transistors are a far more predictable & standardised kind of technology, especially modern ones.