what do Daphne blue and Sonic blue actually look like?

Neil

chrisv said:

Daphne is to Sonic what Sea Foam is to Surf...

Good description Chris.

I would add that although sonic is indeed lighter than Daphne it also has a tinge of grey that is missing from Daphne.

StuartMac290

Neil said:

chrisv said:

Daphne is to Sonic what Sea Foam is to Surf...

Good description Chris.

I would add that although sonic is indeed lighter than Daphne it also has a tinge of grey that is missing from Daphne.

Yeah, Sonic Blue is almost lavender-ish, as in the photo I shared earlier. The Fender and Cadillac charts above show it very well.

richardhomer

Here’s a lovely example of Sonic Blue:

http://www.thefretboard.co.uk/discussion/134896/fs-1962-sonic-blue-fender-jaguar#latest

Note the greenish tint to the headstock.

StuartMac290

As undoubtedly beautiful as that is, it's also extremely faded!

HAL9000

guitars4you said:

miserneil said:

Jez6345789 said:

I have tended to referene Curtis Novak’s article for vintage colours

http://http//curtisnovak.com/restorations/FenderColors/index.shtml

Yes, wis awarded, this is an excellent reference for Fender colours.

have you noticed how many Fiat 500's look like the Fender colour schemes

Strangely, I noticed that just recently. There are certainly Fiat 500 colours that look suspiciously like Fiesta Red, Surf Green, and Olympic White..

axisus

richardhomer said:

Here’s a lovely example of Sonic Blue:

http://www.thefretboard.co.uk/discussion/134896/fs-1962-sonic-blue-fender-jaguar#latest

Note the greenish tint to the headstock.

That looks white!?!? Lovely guitar but not exactly helping to define the colour!

DiscoStu

Kiguitars4you said:

miserneil said:

Jez6345789 said:

I have tended to referene Curtis Novak’s article for vintage colours

http://http//curtisnovak.com/restorations/FenderColors/index.shtml

Yes, wis awarded, this is an excellent reference for Fender colours.

have you noticed how many Fiat 500's look like the Fender colour schemes

Yeah I noticed that a few years ago before I ordered the Sonic Blue nitro from Steve. My mate works at a Fiat dealership but it was such a new colour that he couldn't get any for me. It's called Cha Cha Azure.

guitars4you

HAL9000 said:

guitars4you said:

miserneil said:

Jez6345789 said:

I have tended to referene Curtis Novak’s article for vintage colours

http://http//curtisnovak.com/restorations/FenderColors/index.shtml

Yes, wis awarded, this is an excellent reference for Fender colours.

have you noticed how many Fiat 500's look like the Fender colour schemes

Strangely, I noticed that just recently. There are certainly Fiat 500 colours that look suspiciously like Fiesta Red, Surf Green, and Olympic White..

yes those 3 plus dakota red

StuartMac290

For those that missed it above, here's the original Dupont colour chart showing Sonic Blue clearly:

  

WezV

Sorry to be negative, but how much does it really matter?

Whether finishing a new or vintage the answer is the same. They vary too much to use the name of the colour as a reference.

You can follow original mixing charts, but paint formulations don't necessarily match (they didn't at the time) and colours will still vary a bit. 

Show me an example of the colour/finish you actually want - don't give me a colour name.

Worth a read  - because its the whole process that affects the colour

http://guitarhq.com/fenderc.html

Bridgehouse

I do agree with @WezV - imagine trying to pin down exactly what “sunburst” was - there’s been thousands of variations over the years. 

For the fender blues the fading and primer means there’s so many differences out there... 

What colour is Pelham Blue?

axisus

WezV said:

Sorry to be negative, but how much does it really matter?

Whether finishing a new or vintage the answer is the same. They vary too much to use the name of the colour as a reference.

You can follow original mixing charts, but paint formulations don't necessarily match (they didn't at the time) and colours will still vary a bit. 

Show me an example of the colour/finish you actually want - don't give me a colour name.

Worth a read  - because its the whole process that affects the colour

http://guitarhq.com/fenderc.html

I get your point but I'm just trying to decide which rattle can to buy!

Bridgehouse

axisus said:

WezV said:

Sorry to be negative, but how much does it really matter?

Whether finishing a new or vintage the answer is the same. They vary too much to use the name of the colour as a reference.

You can follow original mixing charts, but paint formulations don't necessarily match (they didn't at the time) and colours will still vary a bit. 

Show me an example of the colour/finish you actually want - don't give me a colour name.

Worth a read  - because its the whole process that affects the colour

http://guitarhq.com/fenderc.html

I get your point but I'm just trying to decide which rattle can to buy!

Daphne Blue. 

meltedbuzzbox

Bridgehouse said:

What colour is Pelham Blue?

Green

:-P

guitars4you

WezV said:

Sorry to be negative, but how much does it really matter?

Whether finishing a new or vintage the answer is the same. They vary too much to use the name of the colour as a reference.

You can follow original mixing charts, but paint formulations don't necessarily match (they didn't at the time) and colours will still vary a bit. 

Show me an example of the colour/finish you actually want - don't give me a colour name.

Worth a read  - because its the whole process that affects the colour

http://guitarhq.com/fenderc.html

I've read that article many times Wez and very good reading - add to this years of use, faded, tobacco stain from such venues etc and subtle variations are applicable on many colours

DiscoStu

The ageing process clearly plays a part in what you perceive as the 'correct' colour. For me, when asked to respray my mate's guitar in Sonic Blue it was a problem choosing a supplier as the options ranged from near white, thru different blues to nearly green.
I asked my mate for some googled pics of what he wanted and they were mostly like the original DuPont colours I found and posted above. Manchester Guitar Tech had the nearest colour to this and handily his colour sample on his site shows the paint with and without a clear top coat. I went with the no top coat option and the final colour was spot on.

WezV

axisus said:

WezV said:

Sorry to be negative, but how much does it really matter?

Whether finishing a new or vintage the answer is the same. They vary too much to use the name of the colour as a reference.

You can follow original mixing charts, but paint formulations don't necessarily match (they didn't at the time) and colours will still vary a bit. 

Show me an example of the colour/finish you actually want - don't give me a colour name.

Worth a read  - because its the whole process that affects the colour

http://guitarhq.com/fenderc.html

I get your point but I'm just trying to decide which rattle can to buy!

Then you need to base your decision on the colour samples offered by the manufacturer of those cans... not the colour name 

thegummy

guitars4you said:

miserneil said:

Jez6345789 said:

I have tended to referene Curtis Novak’s article for vintage colours

http://http//curtisnovak.com/restorations/FenderColors/index.shtml

Yes, wis awarded, this is an excellent reference for Fender colours.

have you noticed how many Fiat 500's look like the Fender colour schemes

Yes! I point this out all the time!

Daphne Blue is very much one of them

axisus

WezV said:

axisus said:

WezV said:

Sorry to be negative, but how much does it really matter?

Whether finishing a new or vintage the answer is the same. They vary too much to use the name of the colour as a reference.

You can follow original mixing charts, but paint formulations don't necessarily match (they didn't at the time) and colours will still vary a bit. 

Show me an example of the colour/finish you actually want - don't give me a colour name.

Worth a read  - because its the whole process that affects the colour

http://guitarhq.com/fenderc.html

I get your point but I'm just trying to decide which rattle can to buy!

Then you need to base your decision on the colour samples offered by the manufacturer of those cans... not the colour name 

Which is a point that I cannot argue with ...

SteveRobinson

axisus said:

I get your point but I'm just trying to decide which rattle can to buy!

If you like, I can spray some samples?