Is this strat genuine or fake?

rlw

DrBob said:

Also I see quite a lot of people “fudging” the American/Mexican issue when selling Highway Ones and American Specials 

What is to be fudged as both are made in America, aren't they?

kelpbeds

The buyer said they would get the serial number for me later but said they had a screen shot of when they checked it earlier and it came up with.

2007 fsr deluxe player strat mn ssb

So SSB refers to the colour (sienna sunburst) fsr (is fender special run) not sure what mn means (have googled it)

kelpbeds

And found this, looks exactly the same - same pickguard as well

https://reverb.com/uk/item/553391-fender-fsr-deluxe-players-strat-2007-sienna

ICBM

poopot said:

Squires have the black plastic insert aswell, could easily logo up one of those...

Ah, true! Although I don't think they use those machineheads, and the body definitely isn't.

kelpbeds said:

The buyer said they would get the serial number for me later but said they had a screen shot of when they checked it earlier and it came up with.

2007 fsr deluxe player strat mn ssb

So SSB refers to the colour (sienna sunburst) fsr (is fender special run) not sure what mn means (have googled it)

Maple Neck.

kelpbeds said:

And found this, looks exactly the same - same pickguard as well

https://reverb.com/uk/item/553391-fender-fsr-deluxe-players-strat-2007-sienna

Yes - but not the *same* guitar, since the wood grain is different. That's a good sign, makes it unlikely it's been knocked up by someone else.

kelpbeds

So does the description of '2007 fsr deluxe player strat mn ssb' tell us anything about country of origin?
Also how do you know the body isn't a Squier one ICBM (just interested!)
thanks

ICBM

kelpbeds said:

So does the description of '2007 fsr deluxe player strat mn ssb' tell us anything about country of origin?

Yes, Mexico.

kelpbeds said:

Also how do you know the body isn't a Squier one ICBM (just interested!)

Squier don't do a Sienna Sunburst, and the quality of the wood and the finish look too good.

Adamski

Pretty sure the neck is from a Mexican Strat. Deluxe Player would certainly indicate that too as those are the sort of naming cliches they use with the Mexican range. 

It 100% is not an American guitar IMO. I wouldn’t buy it, mainly because the seller is clearly lying but also if it is Mexican and all original, that’s not much below the average price I’d expect to pay so not worth the risk. 

kelpbeds

Cheers chaps - most helpful

JAYJO

Tell him it's not USA and offer£200.

gavin_axecaster

rlw said:

DrBob said:

Also I see quite a lot of people “fudging” the American/Mexican issue when selling Highway Ones and American Specials 

What is to be fudged as both are made in America, aren't they?

Yes they are.

Voxman

Adamski said:

 I wouldn’t buy it, mainly because the seller is clearly lying but also if it is Mexican and all original, that’s not much below the average price I’d expect to pay so not worth the risk. 

Might be a tad harsh to say he's lying, rather than just mistaken. 

robinbowes

Yes, it is genuine or fake. 

kelpbeds

Will keep you posted as to how it goes!

SNAKEBITE

gavin_axecaster said:

rlw said:

DrBob said:

Also I see quite a lot of people “fudging” the American/Mexican issue when selling Highway Ones and American Specials 

What is to be fudged as both are made in America, aren't they?

Yes they are.

Not quite.

The Highway one has the donkey work done in Mexico then assembled in the USA, so it can have the "Made in America" sticker.

When they were released they were the cheapest USA "made" guitars available from Fender (£500, when the Standards were about £800)

I know this because this was the reason I got one!

Not sure about the American specials, but assume something similar went on.

kelpbeds

Update -seller decided not to contact me again and relisted it on facebook as a Mexican Strat for £450 - total timewaster. Oh well. Hope we all learned something! Cheers again!

Funkfingers

ICBM said:

I think it's a Mexican Deluxe Player Strat in Sienna Sunburst

This.

ICBM said:

The slightly oversize bridge is normal for that model. 

The Sung-il unit used on many MIM instruments measures 73 x 40mm but its string spacing and the six fulcrum screws are positioned closer together than on any USA or Imperial unit. 

The USA unit = 72 x 38mm.

ICBM

kelpbeds said:

Update -seller decided not to contact me again and relisted it on facebook as a Mexican Strat for £450 - total timewaster.

He’s probably grumpy because a lot of people pulled him up on it. £300 was a good price, £450 is more like what a shop would ask for it.

Funkfingers said:

The Sung-il unit used on many MIM instruments measures 73 x 40mm but its string spacing and the six fulcrum screws are positioned closer together than on any USA or Imperial unit. 

The USA unit = 72 x 38mm.

Yes, it’s the combination of the two which makes them look so oversized, as well as actually being slightly.