The Paul's Guitar

crunchman

Jonathanthomas83 said:

I recently got a Custom 24 and it's perfect in every way!

It's got 2 frets too many.

dindude

That sounds great. I really like the look of the bespoke shape pickups too.

dazzajl

I can see the use of a guitar that can be many things but I’d rather have that covered by a pair of guitars that excel in their own arena personally.  

Jonathanthomas83

crunchman said:

Jonathanthomas83 said:

I recently got a Custom 24 and it's perfect in every way!

It's got 2 frets too many.

Disagree. But I love how people wis that, thinking that there's a right guitar and a wrong guitar. 24 frets is right for my particular needs, thanks!

darcym

so pleased this is coming back, this is a REALLY good guitar, I've been looking for a fair priced used one from the original run for an age, but now the second run is happening I'll be sure to pick one up.

meltedbuzzbox

Jonathanthomas83 said:

crunchman said:

Jonathanthomas83 said:

I recently got a Custom 24 and it's perfect in every way!

It's got 2 frets too many.

Disagree. But I love how people wis that, thinking that there's a right guitar and a wrong guitar. 24 frets is right for my particular needs, thanks!

I've done most of my playing on 24 frets. I really don't get the problem. Seems to be another case of guitarists stuck in the 60s

Jonathanthomas83

These comments are made in jest, I get that. Its all good. But it does raise an interesting thought...last year, I asked a question about how my Custom 24 didn't sound quite right and everyone said it was down to the 24 frets and that Custom 22s are "better" guitars. In my naivety, I sold it and regretted it.

The issue was never those extra frets, it was the pickup change and my misunderstanding of the tone, I get that now, especially now I've bought another one with the right pickups in it. But, nevertheless, I listened to internet wisdom and wish I hadn't.

Be nice if we qualified statements like that though, @crunchman what is it you don't like about 24 frets guitars, fella?

terada

Jonathanthomas83 said:

...internet wisdom...

I believe that to be an oxymoron  

timhulio

Ah, I was hoping this thread was gonna be about this guitar.

Twinfan

Bigsby said:

Nothing wrong with that - I'm not a fan of PRS, but I found that interesting, and I did like the tonal range here. Oh, and the guy did describe them as 'new' brushstroke bird inlays... even if they're not.

They're not completely new, but the 12th fret inlay is now smaller and doesn't spread into the 11th and 13th fret areas.

In fact, I think all inlays are smaller so they maybe are new.

not_the_dj

Twinfan said:

Bigsby said:

Nothing wrong with that - I'm not a fan of PRS, but I found that interesting, and I did like the tonal range here. Oh, and the guy did describe them as 'new' brushstroke bird inlays... even if they're not.

They're not completely new, but the 12th fret inlay is now smaller and doesn't spread into the 11th and 13th fret areas.

In fact, I think all inlays are smaller so they maybe are new.

They're listed in the spec and mentioned in the video as being "new" smaller brush birds. 

hotpickups

I like the single coil sounds etc. Wouldn't be keen on not being able to swap out pickups for other types but then again I tend not to do that offen Very nice

mburekenge

don't they look awful once you scrape the glossy finish though? I'm clumsy and reckon I'd ruin mine in under a month.

imalrightjack

PRS are my favourite guitars. The wide fat/pattern suits me perfectly. They look great (although some awful) and sound and play how I like. 

People talk about ‘mojo’, etc. as though they sound sterile, which I totally disagree with. The McCarty I’m selling is classic vintage, tone-wise.

PS 408’s coil tap amazingly and have a real bite in humbucking mode.

crunchman

Jonathanthomas83 said:

These comments are made in jest, I get that. Its all good. But it does raise an interesting thought...last year, I asked a question about how my Custom 24 didn't sound quite right and everyone said it was down to the 24 frets and that Custom 22s are "better" guitars. In my naivety, I sold it and regretted it.

The issue was never those extra frets, it was the pickup change and my misunderstanding of the tone, I get that now, especially now I've bought another one with the right pickups in it. But, nevertheless, I listened to internet wisdom and wish I hadn't.

Be nice if we qualified statements like that though, @crunchman what is it you don't like about 24 frets guitars, fella?

I get lost up there.  My first PRS was a 24 fret guitar, and it just confused me.  When I'm playing reasonably high up (19th fret is about as high as I get), part of me works out where I am by the distance to the top fret.  When there are 24 I just get completely disorientated.

I don't know if there is something in the pickup position as well that works better on a 21 or 22 fret guitar.  Being under the harmonic isn't really a big deal, because the harmonic is in a different place as soon as you fret a note, but a 24 fret guitar does have the neck pickup closer to the bridge, which will affect tone.

Given that I never use the 22nd fret on the guitars I have, the extra two frets are totally unnecessary.

not_the_dj

crunchman said:

Jonathanthomas83 said:

These comments are made in jest, I get that. Its all good. But it does raise an interesting thought...last year, I asked a question about how my Custom 24 didn't sound quite right and everyone said it was down to the 24 frets and that Custom 22s are "better" guitars. In my naivety, I sold it and regretted it.

The issue was never those extra frets, it was the pickup change and my misunderstanding of the tone, I get that now, especially now I've bought another one with the right pickups in it. But, nevertheless, I listened to internet wisdom and wish I hadn't.

Be nice if we qualified statements like that though, @crunchman what is it you don't like about 24 frets guitars, fella?

I get lost up there.  My first PRS was a 24 fret guitar, and it just confused me.  When I'm playing reasonably high up (19th fret is about as high as I get), part of me works out where I am by the distance to the top fret.  When there are 24 I just get completely disorientated.

I don't know if there is something in the pickup position as well that works better on a 21 or 22 fret guitar.  Being under the harmonic isn't really a big deal, because the harmonic is in a different place as soon as you fret a note, but a 24 fret guitar does have the neck pickup closer to the bridge, which will affect tone.

Given that I never use the 22nd fret on the guitars I have, the extra two frets are totally unnecessary.

That says more about you than the spec of the guitar. 

crunchman

not_the_dj said:

crunchman said:

Jonathanthomas83 said:

These comments are made in jest, I get that. Its all good. But it does raise an interesting thought...last year, I asked a question about how my Custom 24 didn't sound quite right and everyone said it was down to the 24 frets and that Custom 22s are "better" guitars. In my naivety, I sold it and regretted it.

The issue was never those extra frets, it was the pickup change and my misunderstanding of the tone, I get that now, especially now I've bought another one with the right pickups in it. But, nevertheless, I listened to internet wisdom and wish I hadn't.

Be nice if we qualified statements like that though, @crunchman what is it you don't like about 24 frets guitars, fella?

I get lost up there.  My first PRS was a 24 fret guitar, and it just confused me.  When I'm playing reasonably high up (19th fret is about as high as I get), part of me works out where I am by the distance to the top fret.  When there are 24 I just get completely disorientated.

I don't know if there is something in the pickup position as well that works better on a 21 or 22 fret guitar.  Being under the harmonic isn't really a big deal, because the harmonic is in a different place as soon as you fret a note, but a 24 fret guitar does have the neck pickup closer to the bridge, which will affect tone.

Given that I never use the 22nd fret on the guitars I have, the extra two frets are totally unnecessary.

That says more about you than the spec of the guitar. 

Who actually uses frets 23 and 24?

And how many actually want to listen to music where players widdle away up there?

skaguitar

Seems like a very versatile guitar for a gigging musician and I've never thought about PRS before but I've seen a couple recently that are getting me interested...I don't mind the birds either but would prefer the dot moon inlays they do.

normula1

When I bought my PRS I had gone in with the aim of trying a 408 with the different sized pickups as well as a Custom 22. I really liked the 408 but was conscious that I couldn't swap the pickups out if I didn't get on with them. In the end it was neck profile that swung it the way of the CU22, but if they'd had the same profile it would have been an interesting battle I would have had with myself.

SimpleSimon

darcym said:

so pleased this is coming back, this is a REALLY good guitar, I've been looking for a fair priced used one from the original run for an age, but now the second run is happening I'll be sure to pick one up.

This^^^^^^

have been in the same boat, this time will just buy new. Very pleased thease are back....