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ThePrettyDamned

Skipped said:

I think it would be fair to say that there are members of this forum who do not accept the concept of an old guitar that has Mojo.

And yet......in the guitar section, we have a current thread in which an excellent, thoughtful, and level headed young musician called Barrie Cadogan is talking about the desirability of vintage guitars. As well as playing his 1962 Gibson 330, there is another clip made at the same time in which he says this about the 1959 Gibson Les Paul he is holding:

"All that old music is here in this instrument"

What would be an appropriate single word to describe what Barrie has noticed?   

Who is right?

Is it Barrie or is it the Forum deniers?

Firstly, that's metaphorical and emotional  

Secondly, it's a false equivalency. 

gringopig

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digitalscream

Skipped said:

I think it would be fair to say that there are members of this forum who do not accept the concept of an old guitar that has Mojo.

And yet......in the guitar section, we have a current thread in which an excellent, thoughtful, and level headed young musician called Barrie Cadogan is talking about the desirability of vintage guitars. As well as playing his 1962 Gibson 330, there is another clip made at the same time in which he says this about the 1959 Gibson Les Paul he is holding:

"All that old music is here in this instrument"

What would be an appropriate single word to describe what Barrie has noticed?   

Who is right?

Is it Barrie or is it the Forum deniers?

I don't know if you're deliberately drawing a false equivalence or not, but the fact is...there's a difference between the way an old instrument feels and sounds and straight-up junk pseudoscience aimed at parting people and their money for zero gain.

Skipped

digitalscream said:

I don't know if you're deliberately drawing a false equivalence or not, but the fact is...there's a difference between the way an old instrument feels and sounds and straight-up junk pseudoscience aimed at parting people and their money for zero gain.

The thread is about the concept of Mojo. The OP has just confirmed that.

It is a good thing (IMO) that we have a thread about "Mojo" or "snake oil" which is in a forum section other then the guitar section.

I feel sure that Barrie would agree that he can offer no proof to back up his statement, that the music that has been played on a great instrument gives us an instrument that will differ, 60 years later, from other similar instruments, or from the same instrument used exclusively by a different musician.

I believe that this is what was meant.

I agree with Barrie.

I don't think Barrie has said anything  controversial.

gringopig

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gringopig

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57Deluxe

so, there is this Cam girl with massive tits but doesn't get them out in public; her USP is to find Organic Chemistry questions online and then engage her hopeful room visitors with them in the hope that if they guess correctly she will be impressed by them... and they tip her for this...

gringopig

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dano

If I spent  £3750 on that I'd be mental.  

Emp_Fab

Oh now they're just having a laugh !!!  https://www.thecableco.com/telos-audio-design-quantum-sticker.html

robgilmo

Why dont they just sell their snake oil in bottles and have done with it?

p90fool

Skipped said:

I think it would be fair to say that there are members of this forum who do not accept the concept of an old guitar that has Mojo.

And yet......in the guitar section, we have a current thread in which an excellent, thoughtful, and level headed young musician called Barrie Cadogan is talking about the desirability of vintage guitars. As well as playing his 1962 Gibson 330, there is another clip made at the same time in which he says this about the 1959 Gibson Les Paul he is holding:

"All that old music is here in this instrument"

What would be an appropriate single word to describe what Barrie has noticed?   

Who is right?

Is it Barrie or is it the Forum deniers?

It's easy to get a little fanciful and emotional over a lovely old musical instrument, that's a very different thing.

I have worked in the hi-fi industry and it is utterly cynical, with genuinely unpleasant people competing with each other to rip off punters.

One of my jobs (for a company I can't name) was to pot enclosures full of gravel which their staggeringly expensive "interconnects" were plugged into, the sales pitch being that the sound molecules (!) realigned themselves in a musically pleasing way when forced to wiggle their way through the magical mystery matrix of secret, er, stuff. 

Unfortunately the company are particularly litigious and I'm NDA-ed up to my arse, but if they ever go bust I have photos of all the crap I had to make for them. 

These people are not charmingly naive, they are total bastards.

digitalscream

p90fool said:

It's easy to get a little fanciful and emotional over a lovely old musical instrument, that's a very different thing.

I have worked in the hi-fi industry and it is utterly cynical, with genuinely unpleasant people competing with each other to rip off punters.

One of my jobs (for a company I can't name) was to pot enclosures full of gravel which their staggeringly expensive "interconnects" were plugged into, the sales pitch being that the sound molecules (!) realigned themselves in a musically pleasing way when forced to wiggle their way through the magical mystery matrix of secret, er, stuff. 

Unfortunately the company are particularly litigious and I'm NDA-ed up to my arse, but if they ever go bust I have photos of all the crap I had to make for them. 

These people are not charmingly naive, they are total bastards.

I'd like to say I'm surprised, but I genuinely can't.

darthed1981

digitalscream said:

p90fool said:

It's easy to get a little fanciful and emotional over a lovely old musical instrument, that's a very different thing.

I have worked in the hi-fi industry and it is utterly cynical, with genuinely unpleasant people competing with each other to rip off punters.

One of my jobs (for a company I can't name) was to pot enclosures full of gravel which their staggeringly expensive "interconnects" were plugged into, the sales pitch being that the sound molecules (!) realigned themselves in a musically pleasing way when forced to wiggle their way through the magical mystery matrix of secret, er, stuff. 

Unfortunately the company are particularly litigious and I'm NDA-ed up to my arse, but if they ever go bust I have photos of all the crap I had to make for them. 

These people are not charmingly naive, they are total bastards.

I'd like to say I'm surprised, but I genuinely can't.

Seconded.

Jalapeno

Skipped said:

Is it Barrie or is it the Forum deniers?

Can we leave women's hosiery out of this thread please ?