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NelsonPNelsonP Frets: 1048
edited April 12 in FX
I have decided that I would like a Big Muff on my board. I don't want to get too spendy so things like the EQD and JHS are out.

If I keep it to just the EHX offerings, how on earth do you choose which one?

Based on listening to various YouTube clips (some of which are pretty decent quality)
I really like the Green Russian reissue. But is it too bassy in reality? I could easily EQ the low end if needed.
The op amp Muff is the sound of the Smashing Pumpkins, but is it too harsh / a one trick pony?
The triangle Muff sounds cool, but it is a little spiky and that could get old quite quickly.
The 'standard' Muff is a bit, er, 'muffled' and would probably just get lost in the mix.
The Deluxe Muff is too big for my board.
The Bass Muff sounds like it is meant for bass, not guitar.
The Tone Wicker Muff is, wait, what is a Tone Wicker again?

Aaaargghh! Help!
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  • octatonicoctatonic Frets: 21335
    What amp and guitar will you be using most of the time?
    That will dictate any suggestion really.

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  • gusman2xgusman2x Frets: 685
    Tone wicker for me is the best value, as bypapping the tone basically gives you two muffs (oo er). I really liked mine, and only sold it because I wanted to hold on to a boutique triangle muff, that in essence, probably isn't as versatile, therefore good.
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  • andypandyp Frets: 232
    I have the new Op-Amp one and think it's brilliant. It seems more versatile than the Green Russian, to me at least. It has a tone knob and tone bypass switch and seems to be able to do a lot of different sounds. I wanted to try it back to back with the Green Russian, but never got to that stage as one or the other was always out of stock locally. I saw a used one on eBay for about £45 buy it now and bought it on the spot, surely a candidate for one of the best value pedals ever. :)

    From what I can gather from the numerous online videos, the Green Russian sounds too dark for me, so I think I made the right choice, despite having been pretty baffled by all the options before I bought the Op-Amp one.

    Andy
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  • NelsonPNelsonP Frets: 1048
    octatonic said:
    What amp and guitar will you be using most of the time?
    That will dictate any suggestion really.
    Amp is an Atomic Amplifire. Will probably use either a clean Fender or Marshall model.
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  • monquixotemonquixote Frets: 8996
    I have a Bass Big Muff I'm selling.

    It's actually a Green Russian circuit with a clean blend and a switchable bass boost. 

    Works really well on guitar. I think it's marketed as the Bass Big Muff because it has a dry output which can be used to run it wet and dry to two amps which is what a lot of bass players do.
    Handsome_Chris said: Like white Nile Rodgers. 
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  • JD50JD50 Frets: 376
    I have the Deluxe Big Muff, its not really that big..... has a daft about of tone shaping.
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  • CleckoClecko Frets: 51
    Do you have a tubescreamer-type pedal? I have a standard BM and it is quite muffled, as you say. However, stick a TS-style pedal in front of it (I use a Vox Valve Tone) and I haven't heard a better sounding Muff-style fuzz. 

    Interestingly, the same approach applies in the Helix!
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  • monquixotemonquixote Frets: 8996
    Clecko said:
    Do you have a tubescreamer-type pedal? I have a standard BM and it is quite muffled, as you say. However, stick a TS-style pedal in front of it (I use a Vox Valve Tone) and I haven't heard a better sounding Muff-style fuzz. 

    Interestingly, the same approach applies in the Helix!

    Yep, best Muff sounds are stacked.
    Handsome_Chris said: Like white Nile Rodgers. 
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  • TTBZTTBZ Frets: 922
    edited April 12
    To my ears just comparing demo videos the tone wicker one has the best sound and options. I prefer a crunchy/raw sounding fuzz over that super smooth Gilmour style big muff tone. My mate has a Big Muff Deluxe which is pretty decent and very versatile with the gate and mid boost.

    At the minute my fuzz of choice is a Fuzz War clone but the tone stack is odd and doesn't work that well with my Marshall. It was better with my Laney.
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  • NelsonPNelsonP Frets: 1048
    edited April 12
    Thanks all for your advice.

    Reverb just gave me a 15% off offer on a Green Russian reissue. Couldn't resist....

    I have the option to add boosts before it ( ep boost, soul food) or after it (screamer or clean boost models in the Amplifire), as well as eq (peq, lowpass, highpass, geq) so there's a ton of possibilities....

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  • paulnb57paulnb57 Frets: 1359
    The new Green Russian, I dont find Bassy...the tone control has quite a wide range, so it can be set quite trebly, there is loads of gain, stacks great with a Hudson Sidecar.....
    Stranger from another planet welcome to our hole - Just strap on your guitar and we'll play some rock 'n' roll

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  • Fishboy7Fishboy7 Frets: 464
    The op amp muff is a pretty specific sound,  I would look for a used hoof. 
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  • lovestrat74lovestrat74 Frets: 660
    Now there's a thread title. I prefer small ones myself :D
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  • starwarsnosebleedstarwarsnosebleed Frets: 2107
    edited April 12
    I got a madebymike IC78 big muff.
    Great quality and has optional mid controls to improve cutting through the mix.
    think it was about £85
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  • You'll like your new Green Russian. I love mine. Definitely not too bassy, but can get bass in spades if you want it. Tone control, as said, has a wide range.
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  • MattBansheeMattBanshee Frets: 962
    Russian is best. Black is better than green, but the green reissue is much more convenient, obviously.

    Try a Klone into the front.
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