Overrated players

Lonewolff

I honestly can't understand the hate for Rory Gallagher. He is one of the greatest guitarists that ever lived.

Schnozz

Lonewolff said:

I honestly can't understand the hate for Rory Gallagher. He is one of the greatest guitarists that ever lived.

All the speedy strat cats would have sounded much better with a different guitar. It really works for David Gilmour etc, but imagine Rory Gallagher on a P90 SG or something.

Voxman

Sassafras said:

Voxman said:

scrumhalf said:

Gassage said:

Brad Shields. All the hoohah and he's done fuck all at Wasps since he arrived.

He's done a damn sight more than Soppy Wanger.

As for guitarists:

Johnny Marr - seems like a nice chap and managed to be in a band with Morrissey and not kill him, but a bit of jingle-jangle plinky-plink isn't enough.

Totally agree 're Johnny Marr...I like him, and smiths stuff, but can't see why some folk rave about him.  Another is Pete Townshend...liked the Who, he's a great songwriter and a good bread and butter guitarist, but for me not a great guitarist.

They're both very distinctive guitarists. I guess that's what helps distinguish the good from the mediocre..

That's true...whilst a lot of guitarists can be technically brilliant, I agree that both JM and PT have a distinctive style that was a bit different in their day...probably more so with JM.

Lonewolff

Schnozz said:

Lonewolff said:

I honestly can't understand the hate for Rory Gallagher. He is one of the greatest guitarists that ever lived.

All the speedy strat cats would have sounded much better with a different guitar. It really works for David Gilmour etc, but imagine Rory Gallagher on a P90 SG or something.

I don't get your point there. Is it his tone you have a problem with?

ToneControl

Is this not in the wrong section?

Zoolooter

Roy Buchanan sounds best with the mains turned off.

jonnyburgo

Zoolooter said:

Roy Buchanan sounds best with the mains turned off.

Well that’s you off my Christmas card list 

richardhomer

jonnyburgo said:

Zoolooter said:

Roy Buchanan sounds best with the mains turned off.

Well that’s you off my Christmas card list 

And mine - Roy Buchanan was an exceptionally expressive player. 

Tone71

digitalkettle said:

Tone71 said:

scrumhalf said:

As for guitarists:

Johnny Marr - seems like a nice chap and managed to be in a band with Morrissey and not kill him, but a bit of jingle-jangle plinky-plink isn't enough.

But his work in The The was sublime

@Tone71 ;;Wis'd!

Also, take a listen to the three Johnny Marr solo albums (The Messenger, Playland, Call The Comet): decent writing, great sounds, and layers upon layers of awesome ideas. It would be time well spent

Cheers, on my list now  Might send me past the point of no return though especially with the current gas attack for a Jaguar

digitalkettle

Tone71 said:

digitalkettle said:

Tone71 said:

scrumhalf said:

As for guitarists:

Johnny Marr - seems like a nice chap and managed to be in a band with Morrissey and not kill him, but a bit of jingle-jangle plinky-plink isn't enough.

But his work in The The was sublime

@Tone71 ;;Wis'd!

Also, take a listen to the three Johnny Marr solo albums (The Messenger, Playland, Call The Comet): decent writing, great sounds, and layers upon layers of awesome ideas. It would be time well spent

Cheers, on my list now  Might send me past the point of no return though especially with the current gas attack for a Jaguar

Yep...I read his book...then found a JM Jag by accident on Reverb...it *will* happen!

Sassafras

No-one can ever please everyone.
Doesn't it all depend on our perception of 'good'?
I prefer very raw, punchy, energetic and inventive players. Some people like a smoother, more processed sound and others prefer something else again.

Rocker

Rory Gallagher remains one of the greats in my estimation.  He wrung more music out that old Strat than was ever in it.  He was one of the great performers.  Anyone who saw him play live will attest to this.  Fretboard technician he was not.  Musician describes him perfectly.

Lonewolff

Rocker said:

Rory Gallagher remains one of the greats in my estimation.  He wrung more music out that old Strat than was ever in it.  He was one of the great performers.  Anyone who saw him play live will attest to this.  Fretboard technician he was not.  Musician describes him perfectly.

Agreed 100%. Playing live and touring was what Rory was all about. The production on his records could probably have been better but as he said himself, he didn’t care about getting in the top 10. He did things on his own terms.

Fortheloveofguitar

Chris Buck I find way overrated and personally I find him very annoying to watch 

Zoolooter

richardhomer said:

jonnyburgo said:

Zoolooter said:

Roy Buchanan sounds best with the mains turned off.

Well that’s you off my Christmas card list 

And mine - Roy Buchanan was an exceptionally expressive player. 

To make matters worse he has an extra screeching, ear bleeding signature set of pickups!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tXZLCwacPzo

Philly_Q

Zoolooter said:

richardhomer said:

jonnyburgo said:

Zoolooter said:

Roy Buchanan sounds best with the mains turned off.

Well that’s you off my Christmas card list 

And mine - Roy Buchanan was an exceptionally expressive player. 

To make matters worse he has an extra screeching, ear bleeding signature set of pickups!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tXZLCwacPzo

He isn't going to be using them much.

Zoolooter

Philly_Q said:

Zoolooter said:

richardhomer said:

jonnyburgo said:

Zoolooter said:

Roy Buchanan sounds best with the mains turned off.

Well that’s you off my Christmas card list 

And mine - Roy Buchanan was an exceptionally expressive player. 

To make matters worse he has an extra screeching, ear bleeding signature set of pickups!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tXZLCwacPzo

He isn't going to be using them much.

Thank fuck!

Mark1960

I was once given a CD by Walter Trout, and told he was going to be the next big thing. Brilliant technical playing, but lacked feeling to me. Once you had heard one track they all sounded the same. It's as if the songs had become just a vehicle for him to play the lead break over.

With Clapton for example the songs are always sung and played with feeling IMHO, although lots don't like him either.

Revolting1

Charlie Watts

BeardyAndy

Mark1960 said:

I was once given a CD by Walter Trout, and told he was going to be the next big thing. Brilliant technical playing, but lacked feeling to me. Once you had heard one track they all sounded the same. It's as if the songs had become just a vehicle for him to play the lead break over.

With Clapton for example the songs are always sung and played with feeling IMHO, although lots don't like him either.

I saw Walter Trout at the Rockin' the Blues gig on Tuesday, I must admit that I agree. He's clearly a talented player and apparently several years ago he very nearly died, needed a liver transplant and suffered brain damage from it that forced him to re learn walking, talking and playing the guitar so hats off to that but I kept thinking he'd forgotten about the first 12 frets on his Strat during his solo's and would use 3 notes when 2 would've done nicely!

Great gig though, and first time hearing Johnny Lang, he was bloody brilliant.