Chords

hotpickups

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I’ve been listening to Odessy’s ‘Going back to my routes’ It’s a great tune but trying to work out its chords. I know the basic chords of course but they just sound wrong when playing over the song etc and wondered if anyone here uses some cool tasty chord extensions on that song if they perform it etc 

I can paste a link to the songs if you need clarification but feel you’d probably know it anyway 

exocet

hotpickups said:

not sure if this is the right section but I can move it if not

I’ve been listening to Odessy’s ‘Going back to my routes’ It’s a great tune but trying to work out its chords. I know the basic chords of course but they just sound wrong when playing over the song etc and wondered if anyone here uses some cool tasty chord extensions on that song if they perform it etc 

I can paste a link to the songs if you need clarification but feel you’d probably know it anyway 

I don't actually know the chords to this track but I'd be surprised if it weren't straight Major and Minor 7th chords.

Check out  Jason Reads YouTube channel, he covers loads of these tracks and is normally pretty accurate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15pUPXgBNOw

hotpickups

exocet said:

hotpickups said:

not sure if this is the right section but I can move it if not

I’ve been listening to Odessy’s ‘Going back to my routes’ It’s a great tune but trying to work out its chords. I know the basic chords of course but they just sound wrong when playing over the song etc and wondered if anyone here uses some cool tasty chord extensions on that song if they perform it etc 

I can paste a link to the songs if you need clarification but feel you’d probably know it anyway 

I don't actually know the chords to this track but I'd be surprised if it weren't straight Major and Minor 7th chords.

Check out  Jason Reads YouTube channel, he covers loads of these tracks and is normally pretty accurate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15pUPXgBNOw

Yeah I've viewed that. Doesn't sound quite right to me some of that tbh.

EricTheWeary

I never really thought of that as a 'guitar  song' but it's chocka with great guitar. Very little if anything I would describe as a guitar chord in there?
Fairly sure Jason's video ( above) doesn't have the riff correct. This one sounds better, might help if you can speak Russian ( ?) but there's a good close up. 

   

hotpickups

EricTheWeary said:

I never really thought of that as a 'guitar  song' but it's chocka with great guitar. Very little if anything I would describe as a guitar chord in there?
Fairly sure Jason's video ( above) doesn't have the riff correct. This one sounds better, might help if you can speak Russian ( ?) but there's a good close up. 

   

lol yeah watched that too. The chords are in the bridge sections. I don’t mean the riff 

EricTheWeary

hotpickups said:

EricTheWeary said:

I never really thought of that as a 'guitar  song' but it's chocka with great guitar. Very little if anything I would describe as a guitar chord in there?
Fairly sure Jason's video ( above) doesn't have the riff correct. This one sounds better, might help if you can speak Russian ( ?) but there's a good close up. 

   

lol yeah watched that too. The chords are in the bridge sections. I don’t mean the riff 

Ahh. lot of people on the internet trying to teach that riff, not so much the bridge or the solos.  

hotpickups

EricTheWeary said:

hotpickups said:

EricTheWeary said:

I never really thought of that as a 'guitar  song' but it's chocka with great guitar. Very little if anything I would describe as a guitar chord in there?
Fairly sure Jason's video ( above) doesn't have the riff correct. This one sounds better, might help if you can speak Russian ( ?) but there's a good close up. 

   

lol yeah watched that too. The chords are in the bridge sections. I don’t mean the riff 

Ahh. lot of people on the internet trying to teach that riff, not so much the bridge or the solos.  

They sound nice chords though. I’ll work them out sooner or later

viz

You mean at 1:24?
https://youtu.be/99p35Dk8EV4

hotpickups

viz said:

You mean at 1:24?
https://youtu.be/99p35Dk8EV4

Exactly @viz ;

viz

So the song is in D# minor. 

Over the chords is a guitar melody which puts one off a bit, and if we can find chords that incorporate those notes at the top, that would be good.

The notes are G#_____ A# G# F#____

The chords are

D#m
B
C#
G#m


The chord extensions are:

D#m9
Bmaj7add9
C#add9
G#m


and if you add the solo notes on top it would be

D#m9add11
Bmaj7 add9 add maj14
C#add9 add12
G#m7 (the 7th is an octave up, so add14)


I make that:
X64664
798876
X43444
46647x


or something. I haven’t got a guitar to hand, so there is very possibly a mistake or two!

hotpickups

viz said:

So the song is in D# minor. 

Over the chords is a guitar melody which puts one off a bit, and if we can find chords that incorporate those notes at the top, that would be good.

The notes are G#_____ A# G# F#____

The chords are

D#m
B
C#
G#m


The chord extensions are:

D#m9
Bmaj7add9
C#add9
G#m


and if you add the solo notes on top it would be

D#m9add11
Bmaj7 add9 add maj14
C#add9 add12
G#m7 (the 7th is an octave up, so add14)


I make that:
X64664
798876
X43444
46647x


or something. I haven’t got a guitar to hand, so there is very possibly a mistake or two!

Hate to say it @viz but not quite. Definitely the first chord is spot on i.e. D#m9add11. Not sure of the others but as you say you don't have your guitar with you. Love these extentioned chords though

Brad

Nothing that fancy going on really. In a nutshell it’s this...

Db/Eb - Ebm7 - Db/Eb - Ebm7 - Db - Abm7

Obvious voicings,

Db/Eb - x6666x
Ebm7 - x6867x
Db - x4666x
Abm7 - 4x444x

The harmony is spread nicely between the instruments so it’s a little trickier on guitar, but try these,

Db/Eb - x6x664
Ebm7 - x6x676
Db - x4x664
Abm7 - 4xx442

But the triads in the top 3 strings will suffice. 

hotpickups

Brad said:

Nothing that fancy going on really. In a nutshell it’s this...

Db/Eb - Ebm7 - Db/Eb - Ebm7 - Db - Abm7

Obvious voicings,

Db/Eb - x6666x
Ebm7 - x6867x
Db - x4666x
Abm7 - 4x444x

The harmony is spread nicely between the instruments so it’s a little trickier on guitar, but try these,

Db/Eb - x6x664
Ebm7 - x6x676
Db - x4x664
Abm7 - 4xx442

But the triads in the top 3 strings will suffice. 

Sounds good @Brad thanks. Not sure about that last chord though i.e. Abm7?

exocet

I’m hearing Ebm rather than Abm7?

xxx342

Brad

@hotpickups No probs man. I did say in a nutshell  but yep, it is Abm7. 

It’s the way the voices are spread and the instrumentation that’s probably making you question it. If we play conventional guitar shapes for Abm7, it doesn’t quite sound right does it? Too congested and a little flat...

Keep the 7th at the top of chord (as with my 2nd option). The distance from the root (pun intended) makes it more ‘open’ sounding, kinda suggesting an Abm11,which has that sound and would also work. 

hotpickups

Sorry can we confirm what key this song is in? D# minor has been mentioned ?

I’m still working on my theory but where does Abm fit in that if it was that key?

Brad

hotpickups said:

Sorry can we confirm what key this song is in? D# minor has been mentioned ?

I’m still working on my theory but where does Abm fit in that if it was that key?

Yeah of course, if you want to think of the key as being D#m, then that Abm would be G#m. Same things, just viewed differently. I’m thinking in a flat key as opposed to a sharp key, but either is fine. 

C#/D# (AKA D#11)
D#m7
C#
G#m7

hotpickups

Brad said:

hotpickups said:

Sorry can we confirm what key this song is in? D# minor has been mentioned ?

I’m still working on my theory but where does Abm fit in that if it was that key?

Yeah of course, if you want to think of the key as being D#m, then that would be G#m. Same things, just viewed differently. I’m thinking in a flat key as opposed to a sharp key, but either is fine. 

C#/D# (AKA D#11)
D#m7
C#
G#m7

Sorry how would D#m be the same as G#m?

Brad

Apologies, I mean that G#m is the same as Abm, edited the original comment for hopefully a little more clarity  

hotpickups

Brad said:

Apologies, I mean that G#m is the same as Abm, edited the original comment for hopefully a little more clarity  

Ah yes thanks 

Sometimes I think rocket science would be easier than this music theory stuff 

Brad

hotpickups said:

Brad said:

Apologies, I mean that G#m is the same as Abm, edited the original comment for hopefully a little more clarity  

Ah yes thanks 

Sometimes I think rocket science would be easier than this music theory stuff 

Haha I hear ya man, I know the feeling. But stick with it, it all clicks into place at some point. Often when you least expect it