All Quiet on the H7 Front #2: Leslie 145/147 Rebuild

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HarrySevenHarrySeven Frets: 8031
edited July 2019 in Guitar

As per post #1, been tied up with work, but grabbed some time to dig into a few things...

This arrived, looking a bit worse for wear...



By a strange quirk of fate, it was rescued years ago from an imminently-demolished working men's club just round the corner from where I grew up (by the previous owner).

I don't think it's been serviced since some time in the '70's.

The amp had been modified to accept a Bulgin 3-pin mains plug and the Leslie 6-pin connector had been removed. A 1/4" jack input was also added.

Some form of external motor contol must have been used, as the upper and lower motors were disconnected and the power connectors blanked on the chassis. Head scratching time, but anyway...

Whipped out for inspection and quickly wiped over:




Uh-Oh...nasties...









The cabinet needed some TLC and had also been home to a few woodworm in the past, some remedial action was required...



Then came sanding and a liberal soaking in permethrin, just in case...






I also took the opportunity to undertake a few minor "glue-and-clamp" type repairs, just to tidy things up a bit.

Meanwhile, time to turn my attention to the metalwork and moving bits...











Bearings recued (for now):



They'll be replaced with new in due course...



So far:

*Top motors separated and oiled.

*Bottom motors separated and oiled.

*All Bass rotor bearings cleaned and re-lubricated.

*All metal parts cleaned.

*Bass rotor cleaned.

*Horns cleaned.

*Drivers cleaned.


On order:
:

Upper and lower drive belts.

Motor drive 'O' rings.

The plan is to re-stain and varnish the cabinet, re-install all moving parts and work towards this being a guitar-oriented Leslie.

Whether that means rebuilding the amp to stock (or replacing it) and using a Combo Preamp or doing something more drastic, I'm still unsure...

Watch this space!


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  • guitars4youguitars4you Frets: 14284
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    Do you ever watch American Pickers Mr H ?

    I love the Health and safety aspect of the electrics there - Forget about PAT testing but not sure any dealer would be allowed to sell that now - @ICBM might know more on this

    But certainly looks cool
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  • HarrySevenHarrySeven Frets: 8031
    Do you ever watch American Pickers Mr H ?
    No, I hate it. Almost as bad as that Storage Wars crap. :(


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  • NeilNeil Frets: 3625
    Looking forward to seeing the progress Harry.
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  • IvisonGuitarsIvisonGuitars Frets: 6838
    edited July 2019 tFB Trader
    Superb job! Love a Leslie (my particular favourite being Crowther...). Can’t wait to see this take shape.
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  • HarrySevenHarrySeven Frets: 8031
    Superb job! Love a Leslie (my particular favourite being Crowther...).
    Ahhh, I’d have said Phillips, personally... :)


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  • IvisonGuitarsIvisonGuitars Frets: 6838
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    Superb job! Love a Leslie (my particular favourite being Crowther...).
    Ahhh, I’d have said Phillips, personally... :)
    Phillips a close second, followed by Joesph and then Ash...
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  • HarrySevenHarrySeven Frets: 8031
    IvisonGuitars said:

    ...and then Ash...
    Pre- plastic surgery disasters/Botox-gate, I hope?


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  • Winny_PoohWinny_Pooh Frets: 7771
    Cool project
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  • KittyfriskKittyfrisk Frets: 18815
    Superb job! Love a Leslie (my particular favourite being Crowther...).
    Ahhh, I’d have said Phillips, personally... :)
    Phillips a close second, followed by Joesph and then Ash...
    It would have to be Neilsen,  Shirley?
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  • vonLayzonfonvonLayzonfon Frets: 108
    Superb job! Love a Leslie (my particular favourite being Crowther...).
    Ahhh, I’d have said Phillips, personally... :)
    Phillips a close second, followed by Joesph and then Ash...
    It would have to be Neilsen,  Shirley?
    Judd for me (back in the Blue Peter heydays).

    Nice restoration, by the way. 
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  • FunkfingersFunkfingers Frets: 14447
    Superb job! Love a Leslie (my particular favourite being Crowther...).
    Ahhh, I’d have said Phillips, personally... :)
    Ooh...nasties.
    Left hand down a bit.
    You say, atom bomb. I say, tin of corned beef.
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  • WonkyWonky Frets: 188
    Funnily enough, the last time I seen one of those was in the hall of a working mans club that a band I was in used for practice space.  It had that particular old world smell to it.  Cool bit of kit
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  • lukedlblukedlb Frets: 488
    A great restoration work. I’m particularly fond of Leslies. I still have two Leslie 16s. I look forward to seeing your progress and hopefully a recording. 
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  • HarrySevenHarrySeven Frets: 8031
    Well, here’s the cab with a coat of wood stain this evening...

    http://i.imgur.com/tN7q3TU.jpg


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  • IvisonGuitarsIvisonGuitars Frets: 6838
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    Well, here’s the cab with a coat of wood stain this evening...

    http://i.imgur.com/tN7q3TU.jpg
    Very nice!

    B.T.W it’d have to be Ash circa first series of Men Behaving Badly/Hot Neighbour role...
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  • HarrySevenHarrySeven Frets: 8031
    And today’s progress...

    http://i.imgur.com/G2xVlWE.jpg


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  • IvisonGuitarsIvisonGuitars Frets: 6838
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    It’s a wow from me, top job!
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  • guitars4youguitars4you Frets: 14284
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    And today’s progress...

    http://i.imgur.com/G2xVlWE.jpg
    Looking smart - Could almost live in the lounge now

    How is the electrical department going ?
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  • jpfampsjpfamps Frets: 2734

    That's a great job.

    I've worked on loads of 145/7 s. 

    As well as the usual suspects (electrolytic caps) it's always worth replacing the 0.1 uF suppression caps across the motor power supplies as these can (and do) short out and damage the motors.

    Some techs even advise increasing these to 0.22 uF.

    I use 1000 V rated caps here.

    I've built a couple of 145/7 11-pin to 6 pin controller for use with Nord etc clone wheels so that the 145 can be controlled from the keyboard if that is any use to you. I'm currently laying a PCB for a more compact design that uses SS relays.

    I've also got a few Leslie spares knocking about.

    If you want to chat feel free to get in touch.
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  • jpfampsjpfamps Frets: 2734
    Do you ever watch American Pickers Mr H ?

    I love the Health and safety aspect of the electrics there - Forget about PAT testing but not sure any dealer would be allowed to sell that now - @ICBM might know more on this

    But certainly looks cool
    None of the old Hammonds or Leslie conforms to current regs, so technically you would not be able to sell them via a shop.
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