Guitarist of the year 2019 finalist

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WonkyWonky Frets: 119
https://www.musicradar.com/news/guitarist-of-the-year-2019-finalists-revealed

I think the standards and skills of some young guitarist these days is simply amazing.
I know there's so many resources available these days to learn from, but I don't think that accounts for the actual raw talent these guys all have.
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  • RockerRocker Frets: 3484
    Raw talent on its own is often not enough.  Ask Brush Shields. 

    Take professional golf for example.  Look at the last half dozen Walker Cup matches and count how many of the players in those competitions actually 'made it' when they turned professional.   The standard of Walker Cup is extraordinarily high - those guys can hit it long and straight - but that is not enough as all the professionals on the circuit can hit it long and straight too.

    Personally, I find GOTY (competitive) guitar playing - as in solo playing - to be pretty boring and often an opportunity for the player to display amazing technical ability.  Which, all too often, amounts to a big zero musically.
    Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. [Albert Einstein]

    Nil Satis Nisi Optimum

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  • axisusaxisus Frets: 14146
    As I mentioned in a thread a few weeks ago, I'm oversaturated with amazing widdly guitarists now. They are 10 a penny on the internet. I'd prefer to see a composition competition where you don't need amazing chops, just to write something memorable, like Sylvia by Focus for example.
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  • OctafishOctafish Frets: 1869
    Sorry, just don't get guitar playing competitions. Competitive guitar playing or guitar athletics always brings to mind the Zappa quote "dancing about architecture" and the James Brown line "Talking loud and saying nothing".
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  • WonkyWonky Frets: 119
    I think it's a good thing, not that guitar playing is really a competitive thing mind (how on earth can it be competitive FFS, it's subjective), but it does spotlight some amazingly talented players.  Some of whom have gone on to become halo players for the guitarist cause, inspiring new, fresh thinking talent to pick up the guitar.
    We need new blood in the guitar world, whether you guys like what they play or not.  It'll die out with out it, but there's still room for all us older guys too.  The real gift of all of this stuff is when some of the old style feel and some of that fresh thinking technique gets put together to create something more universal.
    And for no other reason than cos I think you guys will like it, here's a previous guitarist of the year, Guthrie Goven playing a Strat (I know you like Strats(by the way, did you notice one of the three finalists is playing a Tele!)).  Not so much new techniques on this, but surely one hell of a solo.  Guthrie does it all though, including the shred you all hate so much, but it's all part of a being a modern guitar player guys.  Just cos you don't listen to it, there's one hell of a lot of other guitarist that do and I suppose these competitions are maybe for those people.  Each to their own fellas, that's what makes the world interesting. :)


    Also, how about Acoustic Guitarist of the year (there's no Les Pauls,Tele's or Strats in this one) ;)
    https://www.musicradar.com/news/acoustic-guitarist-of-the-year-2019-finalists-revealed
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  • stevebrumstevebrum Frets: 5107
    Yawn for me I’m afraid. Zero interest in widdly competitive playing.

    A great guitar solo for me compliments and is part of the whole song it doesn’t work in isolation. 

    Guthrie’s a great player though and has an exceptional knowledge of the instrument. Wasn’t he writing for guitar magazines when he was about 15?!

    That said I’m happy guitarist of the year is a thing and other people appreciate it.
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  • John_PJohn_P Frets: 2347
    Grumpy bunch.  I don’t think of music as a competition but watching the clips and they are all very good players who are actually getting some exposure and having Lukather, Petrucci and Abasi listening to them as well as playing at the guitar show is pretty cool.  

    The last guy Todd Blackmore has a nice melodic blues piece without any backing that shows a lot of feel and touch without any neck shaking and I’ll be checking out more of his songs.     
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  • WonkyWonky Frets: 119
    John_P said:
    Grumpy bunch.  I don’t think of music as a competition but watching the clips and they are all very good players who are actually getting some exposure and having Lukather, Petrucci and Abasi listening to them as well as playing at the guitar show is pretty cool.  

    The last guy Todd Blackmore has a nice melodic blues piece without any backing that shows a lot of feel and touch without any neck shaking and I’ll be checking out more of his songs.     
    To be honest, that's why I posted it, something for everyone I thought.  Shows what I know. Lol
    Glad you like it though, at least I'm not on my own. =)
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  • stratman3142stratman3142 Frets: 921
    All great players and very diverse styles. Fun and educational to watch. Thanks for posting.

    It's not a competition.
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  • WonkyWonky Frets: 119
    All great players and very diverse styles. Fun and educational to watch. Thanks for posting.

    Thanks man.  Glad you liked
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  • Paul31Paul31 Frets: 22
    edited August 10
    I think fast playing has been around since the late sixties so why not now i dont mind it as long as it fits a song or solo, also  speed in the right places can trigger all types of different emotions to a listens ear.

    So yes from me and Thanks! for posting.
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  • dubberdubber Frets: 27
    I remember thinking I was kind of good on guitar when I was 16 or so, then I heard Guthrie's entry into The Guitarist comp ... nearly stopped playing there and then!
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  • Paul31Paul31 Frets: 22
    dubber said:
    I remember thinking I was kind of good on guitar when I was 16 or so, then I heard Guthrie's entry into The Guitarist comp ... nearly stopped playing there and then!

    Not to be to disheartened though GG tried some of Shawn Lanes tunes as a tribute, and was nothing likes his speed and he tapped some of the hard ones, where Shawn just used the one hand stretching on the legato and GG has much longer fingers as well.

    So playing is alot about different styles suiting the player as well.



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  • LastMantraLastMantra Frets: 665
    Wonky said:




    I'm not usually a fan, but that was pretty sweet.
    MYMUSIC

    I wanna be a door
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  • markvmarkv Frets: 191
    Of course music isn't a competition, but the format can inspire or challenge people - just like our own challenges do right here on theFB.

    None of the pieces were ones I'd listen to by choice but the in all cases they were superbly played, and not just from a technique point of view. If it gets people motivated, interested, and inspired, and gives players some exposure, what's not to like?

    (PS the quote "writing/taking about music is like dancing about architecture" is not Zappa's ...)
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  • Paul31Paul31 Frets: 22
    Wonky said:




    I'm not usually a fan, but that was pretty sweet.
    Yes GG is very good and he can play many styles which i have always liked also he can shred but uses sparingly, and also  knows theory inside out as well which helps.
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  • SassafrasSassafras Frets: 17262
    I've always thought were too many guitarists around.
    I would've got a lot more jobs if I'd played drums or keys.
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  • AustrianJohnAustrianJohn Frets: 999
    Wonky said:




    I'm not usually a fan, but that was pretty sweet.
    Great solo. And if there was a competition for best guitar face, Guthrie would win that as well.
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  • WonkyWonky Frets: 119
    Wonky said:




    I'm not usually a fan, but that was pretty sweet.
    Great solo. And if there was a competition for best guitar face, Guthrie would win that as well.
    He does pull some great faces doesn't he.  I seen Paul Gilbert do some amazing faces when he plays to.  I'm thinking I should work more on the face pulling myself.
    I did a video of myself playing a month or so ago and I looked really like my mind was else where and not at all as into it as Guthrie seems to be or Paul for that matter.  Maybe that'll help my playing if I do a bit of gurning!
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  • BarnezyBarnezy Frets: 435
    I know a previous judge. The year he judged it, they gave it to a guy who sang as well. Apparently it was quite controversial, but his view was he was the most musical which is surely what guitar is meant to be. 

    Out of the 3 this year, only Todd is playing music imo, the others are just demonstrating their technical capability. It depends what this comp is meant to be... the most technically advanced player, or the most musical.
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  • WonkyWonky Frets: 119
    Barnezy said:
    I know a previous judge. The year he judged it, they gave it to a guy who sang as well. Apparently it was quite controversial, but his view was he was the most musical which is surely what guitar is meant to be. 

    Out of the 3 this year, only Todd is playing music imo, the others are just demonstrating their technical capability. It depends what this comp is meant to be... the most technically advanced player, or the most musical.
    I think musicality does come into it, but it's subjective.  Everyone likes different types of music and therefore different playing. 
    I personally think they're all playing music. 
    What tends to happen on here is that if it ain't blues related or somehow mainstream in someway people say it ain't music.  That's an opinion but there's obviously people out there that listen and enjoy more challenging stuff as well as the relatively easy listening blues, rock and pop.  
    As said previously, I'm a Jazzer, Fusionist and Rock and Metal stuff too.  It's all stuff I listen to and it's also all music made using a guitar.
    For me they're all great players and they're all furthering the cause of the guitar.  I think the competition (although like I said earlier, how can it be competitive?) is about highlighting talent on the instrument.  Without new techniques from other genres we may as well give up now, cos the guitar will always be about music of the past and not the future.  I can't be alone on this either, as these three guys have been chosen out of many and personally I can see why too.  They're doing something great in my opinion and I hope they all carry on doing it.  Makes for an interesting world and it's ultimately gonna be the future of our instrument after we're all done.
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  • SassafrasSassafras Frets: 17262
    Wonky said:




    I'm not usually a fan, but that was pretty sweet.
    Great solo. And if there was a competition for best guitar face, Guthrie would win that as well.
    Not sure what his eyebrows are up to but they're pretty lively whatever it is.
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  • RandallFlaggRandallFlagg Frets: 8716
    Sassafras said:
    Wonky said:




    I'm not usually a fan, but that was pretty sweet.
    Great solo. And if there was a competition for best guitar face, Guthrie would win that as well.
    Not sure what his eyebrows are up to but they're pretty lively whatever it is.
    The Guthrie video is a rerun for the cameras, the video doesn't match the audio, there are a few places where the vibrato on the audio not matched by Guthrie's fingers in the video. See 0.44s

    It's a terrific solo and tone though.
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  • WonkyWonky Frets: 119
    Sassafras said:
    Wonky said:




    I'm not usually a fan, but that was pretty sweet.
    Great solo. And if there was a competition for best guitar face, Guthrie would win that as well.
    Not sure what his eyebrows are up to but they're pretty lively whatever it is.
    I'm thinking we should have a thread on here with FB members best faces whilst playing.  That's got to be the thread of the year, surely!
    I'll get to work on a starter video when I get a chance and you better all join in! =)
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  • EricTheWearyEricTheWeary Frets: 8858
    What I always find slightly odd about these is that the finalists have expensive guitars that they've carefully chosen to suit their style and the prize is always a guitar that you imagine they'll put away in a cupboard somewhere. As the point is obviously more about the honour and the publicity perhaps they could have a more useful prize ( or even no prize) or find someway to donate the prize guitar to someone who actually wants it.

    Competitions in music aren't exactly novel but ( like the isn't John Mayer/ Eric Clapton/ Wellington Womble over rated threads we have on here) you need to be quite specific about what is being judged otherwise it's a bit meaningless. However, for all my grumbles ( and the grumbles of those before me) I'm sure it takes an enormous amount of dedication to get to this point and I wish them all well. 


    Who invaded Spain in the eight century?
    The Moops.
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  • WonkyWonky Frets: 119
    What I always find slightly odd about these is that the finalists have expensive guitars that they've carefully chosen to suit their style and the prize is always a guitar that you imagine they'll put away in a cupboard somewhere. As the point is obviously more about the honour and the publicity perhaps they could have a more useful prize ( or even no prize) or find someway to donate the prize guitar to someone who actually wants it.

    Competitions in music aren't exactly novel but ( like the isn't John Mayer/ Eric Clapton/ Wellington Womble over rated threads we have on here) you need to be quite specific about what is being judged otherwise it's a bit meaningless. However, for all my grumbles ( and the grumbles of those before me) I'm sure it takes an enormous amount of dedication to get to this point and I wish them all well. 


    Do you know what, I never even looked or considered there maybe a prize until you said!  Just did a quick search and couldn't find what it is, although being sponsored by PRS I'm thinking it's one of them.
    I agree they all seem to have chosen their guitars well to suit what they are doing in their videos.
    But if they are like me, maybe covering different genres like I do, they may need various different sorts of guitar for different things.  I hate to think of a great guitar tucked away under someones bed or in a cupboard somewhere!!!  I think you're right that they should get a prize to suit what they do though.
    Great post by the way.  I don't think you're grumbling at all man.  Truly a balanced view.  I personally think overrated is overrated!   ;)
    I can't imagine being a judge on something like this TBH.  Like you said, what would you judge on?  Is there a tick sheet for such a thing?  They're all amazing.  I think though, the fact I like all their musical genres helps a lot for me.  Truly, they are all awesome guitarist and that makes me really happy for the future of what we do.  All so different, but all amazing and all guitar!
    In fact wouldn't it be amazing if they were FretBoard members.
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  • RockerRocker Frets: 3484
    Just because fifty posters say (GG and the like) is good doesn’t mean it is good. One would be enough if it is good. 
    Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. [Albert Einstein]

    Nil Satis Nisi Optimum

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  • tony99tony99 Frets: 2507
    axisus said:
    something memorable, like Sylvia by Focus for example.
    don't actually remember that one to be fair
    Bollocks you don't know Bono !!
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