Is the Headrush FRFR the best option at the price?

Cirrus

gearaddict said:

The whole coaxial thing is new to me. People seem to say coaxial is better for monitors for some reason. Instinctively I’d have thought sticking the tweeter in front of the woofer would be a bad idea! 

The principle is that it's better for phase coherency. As you go up the frequency range, there's a range of frequencies that gradually cross over from the woofer to the tweeter - so will come from both woofer and tweeter at the same time. Quite often it's right in the midrange which your ear is really sensitive to. If they're in different places, you can get phase cancellation that depends on where your ears are relative to the speaker - different travel time for the sound coming from two places.

If the tweeter's right in the middle of the woofer, you don't get that.

gearaddict

Think I might go for one of these db FM10 wedges. They seem to be over £300 in most places but ~250 on Thomann atm so worth a try I think...although I will need to get a 1/4" - XLR adapter as they don't seem to have a jack input.

John_A

gearaddict said:

Think I might go for one of these db FM10 wedges. They seem to be over £300 in most places but ~250 on Thomann atm so worth a try I think...although I will need to get a 1/4" - XLR adapter as they don't seem to have a jack input.

A good choice.  After trying a few that’s the one I stuck with.

get a dedicated jack XLR cable rather than an adapter, adapters tend to be flakey 

gearaddict

Done, ordered and (amazingly) dispatched. 

Yeah, I got a XLR - Jack cable. I like the form factor, the way you can have it standing up as well - I'd imagine that would work quite well as backline if it had to.

I'm really liking the Headrush sounds and using it without the cab modelling into a power amp and guitar cab just felt like I was not getting full use of it.

Now I see Headrush have brought out an official expression pedal with a toe switch which I kind of want. More GAS!

bloodandtears

gearaddict said:

Think I might go for one of these db FM10 wedges. They seem to be over £300 in most places but ~250 on Thomann atm so worth a try I think...although I will need to get a 1/4" - XLR adapter as they don't seem to have a jack input.

Loud enough for band use?? some of it's peers are often rated and 10 times the power...

John_A

bloodandtears said:

gearaddict said:

Think I might go for one of these db FM10 wedges. They seem to be over £300 in most places but ~250 on Thomann atm so worth a try I think...although I will need to get a 1/4" - XLR adapter as they don't seem to have a jack input.

Loud enough for band use?? some of it's peers are often rated and 10 times the power...

I have one, replaced a dxr10.  The ratings of PA gear doesn’t seem to add up, it’s as loud as the DXR, and certainly loud enough

kennedydream1980

bloodandtears said:

gearaddict said:

Think I might go for one of these db FM10 wedges. They seem to be over £300 in most places but ~250 on Thomann atm so worth a try I think...although I will need to get a 1/4" - XLR adapter as they don't seem to have a jack input.

Loud enough for band use?? some of it's peers are often rated and 10 times the power...

Yes the FM10 will definitely be loud enough. I had the FM8 and that was loud enough. Watts mean nothing with PA speakers, SPL gives a much truer picture.

bloodandtears

Well I was looking at the Laney LFR12.. but now I'm thinking FM10.. thanks a bunch..

kennedydream1980

The DB Technologies stuff is very well respected on the German Fractal forum. There was a post on there where a couple of the main contributors took a DB Flexsys FM12 and applied some corrective parametric EQ within an Axe fx 2, and got the speaker sounding identical to an Atomic CLR. They posted the adjustments they made in the thread.

bloodandtears

kennedydream1980 said:

The DB Technologies stuff is very well respected on the German Fractal forum. There was a post on there where a couple of the main contributors took a DB Flexsys FM12 and applied some corrective parametric EQ within an Axe fx 2, and got the speaker sounding identical to an Atomic CLR. They posted the adjustments they made in the thread.

Good to know.. I had an Alto but the form factor just didn't seem right to me because other band members were using back line..

https://www.thomann.de/gb/the_box_pro_mon_a12.htm have these been mention somewhere? I think there a number of rebadged variants too..

John_A

For the extra few quid I’d get the dB over the box, it really is a quality speaker.  It’s not light though

kennedydream1980

John_A said:

For the extra few quid I’d get the dB over the box, it really is a quality speaker.  It’s not light though

Reassuringly weighty 

AndyJP

Yeah think the headrush is a rebadged alto..

kennedydream1980

AndyJP said:

Yeah think the headrush is a rebadged alto..

And re-voiced.

AndyJP

Ah it's revoiced?

bloodandtears

https://www.laney.co.uk/products/frfr-lfr-212-active-cabinet

I'm in love

John_A

I would be, but 30kg, not for me

gearaddict

John_A said:

get a dedicated jack XLR cable rather than an adapter, adapters tend to be flakey 

Should I be using a DI box?

gearaddict

gearaddict said:

John_A said:

get a dedicated jack XLR cable rather than an adapter, adapters tend to be flakey 

Should I be using a DI box?

I think the output is balanced...it is a TRS and why else would you do that for a mono output? I can't find a definitive answer so I've asked Headrush support. In which case you shouldn't need to use a DI box I guess.

In unrelated news, I just discovered the Headrush has got a polyphonic drop tune pedal in the latest update...who knew?! Not me, obviously...

gearaddict

FYI if anyone is interested - Headrush confirmed that the 1/4" outputs on the gigboard are balanced.


Which was nice.