Speaker recommendations 68 Vibrolux

keir

Recently gone back to rehearsing with my band and decided to use my 68 Custom Vibrolux. Tried it out at home with my board and volume on about 2 and it sounded pretty good with the stock Celestion Ten 30s but when we got in the rehearsal room it ran out of headroom fast and everything turned to mush. 

In the past I’ve had a pair of Celestion Gold 10s in there which made the amp much louder, however I also have an AC30 with blues and the Golds made both amps sound quite similar. 

I would like the Vibrolux to have more american sounding speakers do give me a distinctly different flavour than the Vox

Anyone got any recommendations please?

bandmaster188

Jensen  p10q would be the obvious choice .

ICBM

Jensen C10Qs. They're bigger-sounding and more 'American' than the P10s or the Rs, and more different from the Blues.

keir

Thanks for the suggestions. I’ve had a quick look at the Jensons and they all seem to be about 95db. I’m not sure they would provide the increased headroom needed from the Ten 30s. I think I probably need 97db+

ICBM

keir said:

Thanks for the suggestions. I’ve had a quick look at the Jensons and they all seem to be about 95db. I’m not sure they would provide the increased headroom needed from the Ten 30s. I think I probably need 97db+

In that case, Eminence Legend 1058.

downbytheriver

Actually, I’m surprised by your comment about the Ten 30s - I’ve never experienced that 

keir

downbytheriver said:

Actually, I’m surprised by your comment about the Ten 30s - I’ve never experienced that 

Interesting. I had to have the custom channel on 5 to match the rest of the band and I had no headroom at all. I was quite surprised actually, I wonder if there’s an issue with the amp. What do you have your volume set at? 

keir

Just had a look at the amp and looks like the speakers may have been wired incorrectly. The wire coming from the speaker jack has a red and black, would the red be positive?

bbill335

keir said:

downbytheriver said:

Actually, I’m surprised by your comment about the Ten 30s - I’ve never experienced that 

Interesting. I had to have the custom channel on 5 to match the rest of the band and I had no headroom at all. I was quite surprised actually, I wonder if there’s an issue with the amp. What do you have your volume set at? 

use the other, cleaner channel 

downbytheriver

My volume is usually on 5-6 - Custom channel, dead clean, bright switch off, treble 6, bass 3 

PhilKing

keir said:

Just had a look at the amp and looks like the speakers may have been wired incorrectly. The wire coming from the speaker jack has a red and black, would the red be positive?

Shouldn't make any difference as long as you keep the speakers in phase.  If you connect the red to the + on one or both speakers (depending on whether you are wiring series or parallel) and the black to the - on the other, then you should be fine (in series you'd take a wire between the - and the + of the speakers).

You can check phase with a battery.  just apply a small current for a second and see which way the speaker cone moves (in or out).  Both should move the same way when connected the same.

Keefy

ICBM said:

keir said:

Thanks for the suggestions. I’ve had a quick look at the Jensons and they all seem to be about 95db. I’m not sure they would provide the increased headroom needed from the Ten 30s. I think I probably need 97db+

In that case, Eminence Legend 1058.

This all the way. I recently put one in my '68 Custom Princeton Reverb - when the amp starts breaking up, it does so much more sweetly, whereas the OEM Celestion would go all raggedy. I liked it so much I got a 1258 for my 5E3 clone.

You can get a pack of two 1058s at Lean Business.

strat84

I think the Eminence 1028k would be a great match - 97.4db and 35 watts, Perfect for a Vibrolux!

ICBM

strat84 said:

I think the Eminence 1028k would be a great match - 97.4db and 35 watts, Perfect for a Vibrolux!

Be careful with the sensitivity figures - Eminence can be a little optimistic about theirs compared to similar Celestions, by around a couple of dB. I like the 1028, but it's quite soft and 'vintage' sounding - the 1058 is punchier and tighter, as well as slightly louder.

strat84

ICBM said:

strat84 said:

I think the Eminence 1028k would be a great match - 97.4db and 35 watts, Perfect for a Vibrolux!

Be careful with the sensitivity figures - Eminence can be a little optimistic about theirs compared to similar Celestions, by around a couple of dB. I like the 1028, but it's quite soft and 'vintage' sounding - the 1058 is punchier and tighter, as well as slightly louder.

 Yes definitely agree the 1058 is punchier and louder! I had a mix of the two in a Super Reverb but didnt need the added punch/volume with that amp so ended up with 4 1028ks.

 Maybe 1 of each in a VR would be a good shout? As long as the ceramic didnt overpower the alnico too much

Emiel

I’d definitely get this one. Had it in a Princeton Reverb. A fantastic speaker, plenty loud for your amp. Look up the reviews.

https://www.eminence.com/speakers/speaker-detail/?model=GA10_SC64

dcg

WGS smooth cone G10C/S.  Link to WGS site: https://wgsusa.com/g10cs
A perfect 10 (and a perfect 12 for that matter...). With Fender amps, taking the very highest of the high end off is a revelation...
Works perfectly in Princetons and any Fender running stock 10" speakers.

Trude

I have an Emi Copperhead I’m selling - originally purchased for a Vibrolux for exactly the reasons you describe...

crunchman

I'd go WGS.

I've got a WGS G10 Veteran in my Princeton.  It's only listed as 95dB, but it's louder (and significantly better sounding) than the stock Celestion was.  It's only rated at 20W though.  A pair of them in a 35W amp may be a bit dicey if you run it hard.

I'd look at the one that @dcg suggested.