Trading a orange ad15 for a Gordon Smith gs1

Zonular

Quick one after a glass of wine. Sight unseen, been trying to sell the orange for a while with no bites. Anyone have any experience with the gs1 guitars? 
Worthwhile trade?

jellybelly

Had you considered trying to sell it on here? AD15s are pretty sought after. No idea about the Gordon Smith I'm afraid!

Zonular

I'm in Dublin so shipping scares me

ICBM

How old is the Gordon Smith? This matters a lot - the last ones before the company was sold a couple of years or so ago were of very questionable quality.

Zonular

Looks to be 2001, it seems to have more than enough "nibbles" on the body

ICBM

On the face of it it looks like a good deal, assuming there’s nothing wrong with the guitar - it’s probably worth a little more than the amp.

Sassafras

I wouldn't hesitate. I had one of the first GS-1s made and it was one of my favourite guitars.

ICBM

Sassafras said:

I wouldn't hesitate. I had one of the first GS-1s made and it was one of my favourite guitars.

I knew someone who had an early one in the 80s, it was brilliant too. Sadly some of the more recent ones really aren’t... I think 2001 is old enough not to be too risky, but I would still check it carefully.

Zonular

Have a look again, love a bit of group think , the jack looks fairly dodgy http://imgur.com/gallery/lq395cZ

boogieman

GS’s are decent sounding guitars but they have that “built by a bloke in a shed” look, which basically describes what the ones from that era were. The build quality can be a bit amateur, but they did use good quality parts. The body timber can be anything under the paint, I think they just used what they could get their hands on... mine was described as mahogany by the shop but turned out to be actually poplar. 

Finishing on all the ones I’ve seen is very variable, from “Stevie Wonder would be proud” to very decent.

Bear in mind (and from my personal experience) you might have trouble moving it on if you don’t like it. They’re not particularly well regarded guitars. 

The one in the photo doesn’t look great  ... that jack socket has either taken a whack with the lead in place so it’s splintered the wood or it’s just been badly replaced. Personally I’d avoid it. 

p90fool

That looks like some kind of pine from a cheap kitchen table. 

It might sound great actually, but it's the last guitar I'd buy without trying. 

Zonular

I'm awake with glasses on and no wine in the belly, as a trade of a amp it might be a silly one. 

Rather than start a new thread, do you guys have any idea of the going rate of an ad15? Just wondering if I'm overvaluing it 

Seziertisch

Zonular said:

I'm awake with glasses on and no wine in the belly, as a trade of a amp it might be a silly one. 

Rather than start a new thread, do you guys have any idea of the going rate of an ad15? Just wondering if I'm overvaluing it 

No idea as to the price, but I have the feeling that the market for more "utilitarian" tube amps (not desirably vintage or boutique) is very slow. 

I tried to sell an Blackstar Artisan 15 head a while back, with all the caps upgraded and NOS tubes and there was no interest. If I'd looked for EUR 250 I'd probably have gotten someone to take it. I even asked about trades in a shop and there was no interest, not something that would move quickly.

So you might be overpricing it, though your price might not be unreasonable.

I've seen other regular gear flippers on the Guitarist Ireland forum commenting too about how slow the tube amp market is. I guess the modelling stuff is making inroads, certainly from a practical perspective it has advantages over tubes.

Bennyboy-UK

I had one years back and loved it. They don’t come up for sale very often that I’ve seen so valuation is a bit tricky. just checked back through my emails on a few I was watching for sale in various places and they were selling between £400-500 quid

They aren’t too common so I’m a bit surprised you haven’t found a buyer yet

if I had to choose between your amp and a GS1 - I’d take your AD15 every day.

Sassafras

Amps of the same model are pretty much identical whereas guitars vary wildly. I'd want to try out the GS1, it could be a belter or a dog.

jellybelly

Bennyboy-UK said:

I had one years back and loved it. They don’t come up for sale very often that I’ve seen so valuation is a bit tricky. just checked back through my emails on a few I was watching for sale in various places and they were selling between £400-500 quid

They aren’t too common so I’m a bit surprised you haven’t found a buyer yet

if I had to choose between your amp and a GS1 - I’d take your AD15 every day.

I was looking for one a couple of years back - £300 to £450 was about right. 10inch speaker version very much the bottom end of that though. 

DrJazzTap

I sometimes think with a trade "if they want to trade it, then why couldn't they sell it?" 

Might be because they have a sentimental attachment causing them to over value the item, or it could be a dog. If they describe it as playing like butter, then ignore all future messages. 

ICBM

The only AD15 to sell recently on Ebay went for an offer under £330. Annoyingly Ebay don’t tell you what it was, but £300 seems a sensible guess. Also with no shipping option.

Weirdly the 'offer' doesn't show up there unless you go to it from Search.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_sacat=0&_udlo&_udhi&_ftrt=901&_ftrv=1&_sabdlo&_sabdhi&_samilow&_samihi&_sadis=15&_stpos=EH259LR&_sop=12&_dmd=1&_ipg=50&_fosrp=1&_nkw=orange ad15&LH_Complete=1&rt=nc&_trksid=p2045573.m1684

It's also probably not helped by the seller having only 97% positive feedback.

I would have said that seems a bit low, but not that much.

Zonular

Local high end shop (some neck guitars , great shop) had one second hand and sold it for 550. I had it priced at 450/400. Truth be told I'm trying to move it on cause it's too much for what I need, I'm mainly playing with headphones these days.

Of course my other option is pack it up and keep it for my imaginary wedding band backline, although the helix / kemper is way more suited to that I suppose

Seziertisch

Zonular said:

Local high end shop (some neck guitars , great shop) had one second hand and sold it for 550. I had it priced at 450/400. Truth be told I'm trying to move it on cause it's too much for what I need, I'm mainly playing with headphones these days.

Of course my other option is pack it up and keep it for my imaginary wedding band backline, although the helix / kemper is way more suited to that I suppose

Some Neck has the advantage of having a lot of foot traffic and also providing people with the opportunity to try stuff out and buy on impulse.

And yes, Some Neck is a great shop, great guys and great stock.

Zonular

Right so, taken the ad down, going to hold on and replace some valves.