Boss GX-100 modeller/ multi-fx?

Chuffola

This popped up in my facebook this morning. Can't see any other threads.

Is this the Pod Go equivalent of the GT-1000?  Looks pretty nice.

https://www.guitarworld.com/news/boss-gx-100

Pre-order at Andertons £499. I'm tempted...

FarleyUK

Looks like BOSS have released a new shiny toy:

https://www.boss.info/uk/products/gx-100/

Looks and sounds great, although I can't see anywhere actually selling it.... have heard it's $599 in the US, so will probably be around £600 here.

EDIT - Andertons have pre-orders for £500. https://www.andertons.co.uk/brands/boss/boss-gx-100-guitar-effects-processor

Think I might take the plunge....!

StefB

This looks brilliant, I'll be keeping an eye on the reviews.

StefB

It's already ahead of Pod Go in my book by having MIDI in/out, external relay switching and a touch screen.

fretmeister

Only 16 IR slots is somewhat limiting compared to the competition.

fretmeister

Only 16 IR slots

StefB

fretmeister said:

Only 16 IR slots is somewhat limiting compared to the competition.

How many does the average user typically use?

Not being flippant, I've just never used IRs and if I did can't see any scenario (in a function band set up) where I'd ever need more than 3 or 4 to cover the main cab types.

StefB

Two threads running concurrently, mods might want to merge them - https://www.thefretboard.co.uk/discussion/223968/boss-gx-100#latest

Grumpyrocker

StefB

Two threads running concurrently, mods might want to merge them - https://www.thefretboard.co.uk/discussion/223967/boss-gx-100-modeller-multi-fx#latest

meltedbuzzbox

So its a modernisation of the old GT range?

Could be interesting if it has all the 200/500 series stuff in it with some extra bits

fretmeister

StefB said:

fretmeister said:

Only 16 IR slots is somewhat limiting compared to the competition.

How many does the average user typically use?

Not being flippant, I've just never used IRs and if I did can't see any scenario (in a function band set up) where I'd ever need more than 3 or 4 to cover the main cab types.

The Helix / Fractal / Kemper facebook pages have pages of people complaining they only have 128 slots.

It's a convenience thing - they don't want to hook up to their PC's to swap them around to audition them, they just want them available.

NorthernStomps

StefB said:

fretmeister said:

Only 16 IR slots is somewhat limiting compared to the competition.

How many does the average user typically use?

Not being flippant, I've just never used IRs and if I did can't see any scenario (in a function band set up) where I'd ever need more than 3 or 4 to cover the main cab types.

I play using a valve amp and never leave the house with fewer than 50 different speaker cabs

fretmeister

NorthernStomps said:

StefB said:

fretmeister said:

Only 16 IR slots is somewhat limiting compared to the competition.

How many does the average user typically use?

Not being flippant, I've just never used IRs and if I did can't see any scenario (in a function band set up) where I'd ever need more than 3 or 4 to cover the main cab types.

I play using a valve amp and never leave the house with fewer than 50 different speaker cabs

It's almost like modern recording and going out playing are entirely different things with different approaches.

bermudianbrit

god I detest this trend of touch screens on gear, combined with no screen reader accessibility for the IOS apps or windows apps. I am so tired of every piece of musical gear in the last 10 years screwing blind players.

StefB

NorthernStomps said:

StefB said:

fretmeister said:

Only 16 IR slots is somewhat limiting compared to the competition.

How many does the average user typically use?

Not being flippant, I've just never used IRs and if I did can't see any scenario (in a function band set up) where I'd ever need more than 3 or 4 to cover the main cab types.

I play using a valve amp and never leave the house with fewer than 50 different speaker cabs

So do I, hence my naivety about the *need* for multiple IRs. 

I'm not so far down the other end of the 'all you need is a Bandit/HRD and a HSS Strat to cover every gig' spectrum that I don't understand its nice to have the choice, but still.

Chuffola

@Roland ; @Bridgehouse @digitalscream ;

Sorry to tag 3 of you - fancy merging this with the other GX100 thread - both posted within mins of each other. Thanks!

Stratavarious

Could upgrade my trusty GT100 i take everywhere as backup

Roland

Threads merged

fretmeister

StefB said:

NorthernStomps said:

StefB said:

fretmeister said:

Only 16 IR slots is somewhat limiting compared to the competition.

How many does the average user typically use?

Not being flippant, I've just never used IRs and if I did can't see any scenario (in a function band set up) where I'd ever need more than 3 or 4 to cover the main cab types.

I play using a valve amp and never leave the house with fewer than 50 different speaker cabs

So do I, hence my naivety about the *need* for multiple IRs. 

I'm not so far down the other end of the 'all you need is a Bandit/HRD and a HSS Strat to cover every gig' spectrum that I don't understand its nice to have the choice, but still.

It's a recording thing mainly.

But - even if the live approach is very different that still needs the IRs to be auditioned at rehearsals at gig volume before a choice can be made.

An IR is really just another variable setting. You don't pick where your treble control is going to be at home and assume it will work without adjustment at rehearsal at full volume or at every different venue.

So you buy a modest IR pack of a 4x12 loaded with V30 speakers.

That IR pack will probably come with over a hundred different actual IR files

It will have a dozen or so different mic options. Then for each of those mics there will be close medium and far mic distances, and maybe really far room mic as well. Then for each of those, on axis and varying degrees of being off-axis. Sometimes there will be a blend of mics as well - again with an individual file for every permutation.

And this is just for a 4x12 with V30s in it.

Even if you already know your favourite mic for this 4x12 is the good old SM57, you'll still have far more than 16 IRs to audition.

Do you really want to have to take your PC with you just to swap them round rather than just twisting a knob to A/B them?


I think everyone calms down and does end up picking some favourites, but then there are some in big covers bands who have a patch per song and within that patch have a different IR for clean and dirty sounds.

16 really isn't a lot.

Bidley

Agree with @fretmeister, although 16 is plenty when you know which IR you want, when you consider the mic/distance conbinations as well, it's not many at all.

I wonder what the reasoning behind it is. Why not have infinite slots and only be limited by the internal storage capacity?