looking for advice for recreating manson /nin/ skold / industrial vocal effects

JMP220478

Really appreciate some constructive advice - for both live and studio 

cheers in advance 

Mr_Claw

The old classic trick live is to sing through a megaphone into the mic. In the studio there are prob plugins to similuate this,  or otherwise use an eq-compressor and compress the living hell out of just the upper mids.

Otherwise use parallel distortion on the vocal track (that gives the Strokes-type of cheaply-recorded overloading mic effect).

Haven't listened to any Ministry or Revolting Cocks etc for ages, but I recall Jourgensen also uses bitcrushing and very fast phasing / flanging on vocals too to give it a watery effect.

Mr_Claw

I just found this - hope it's useful https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgpR9wZfPlg

Mr_Claw

...also this from recording engineer Sanford Parker:

"...you take a [dbx] 160 and turn the threshold all the way off, then you turn the ratio all the way down so there's no compression at all, and then turn the output all the way up to where it distorts. Then you send it to another 160, or any other [compressor] - I usually use an [Empirical Labs] Distressor. Then I dial back a reasonable amount [of level] to tape and that's the one I use for my compression. It's cool because you talk into the mic and it sounds completely fine; but as soon as you scream, it starts to hit the output of that 160 and breaks up - to me it just sounds natural."

https://tapeop.com/interviews/86/sanford-parker-Doom-Maker/

Siejen

There used to be mix breakdowns by Klos / Christian Hands who did a couple of Marilyn Manson tracks and what struck me was the number of vocal tracks in use, whispers, screams, talking all doubled tripled and compressed to hell. 
Soundcloud link has now disappeared, and 

Closest I could find now was this:

https://youtu.be/3kE49uig7_A
which has some vocal examples about 20mins in. Just hearing the isolated ‘vocal’ gives you a clue …

roberty

Mr_Claw said:

I just found this - hope it's useful

I think he might be the most cheerful goth in the world