FT - Withdrawn.

MikeS

 

 Mahogany body, cedar top, and a beautiful Brazilian Rosewood fingerboard.

1 3/4" nut width

Original Hiscox type case included.

Trade for something interesting, open to suggestions. Fender, Gibson, higher end guitars, maybe an amp, and I will be needing a bass shortly. Maybe a parlour sized acoustic, who knows, open to all ideas.

Message me with any enquiries or trade offers 

  

    

Stuckfast

Ooooh, that's pretty nice. Do you have a trade value in mind? 

cowmoo

Original comment withdrawn since post was amended  
interested to see if this only affects the rosewood board.  

MikeS

Some good offers, but still available just now.

Someones contacted me and said I need an article 10 CITES document to trade this.

So this is withdrawn just now until my application is processed.

fretfinder

What’s the trade value? Or alternatively what specific guitars/amps would you do a straight swap for?

MikeS

Please read above, I need to get a CITES certificate or someones going to tell on me.

So this is withdrawn until the time comes I have one, apparently it takes approx 30 days

Also, I couldnt be clearer with the line "Message me with any enquiries or trade offers". Its a trade post,. Everyone knows what a Lowden costs. Just message me and offer a trade, and we'll sort something out. (but not just now though, or ill get into trouble)

ElectricXII

I think you only need a CITES certificate if you're going to import or export the guitar. If you're selling in the UK to a UK buyer you should be fine.

EDIT: It seems you need something called an Article 10. Every day's a schoolday.

Nick23

Some interesting information here...

https://www.pmtonline.co.uk/blog/2017/05/19/a-guide-to-the-cites-law-on-rosewood-guitars/

and here... 

https://www.tfoa.eu/en/blogs/blog/cites-facts-and-fairytales/

First post here, but do your own research....

But you can probably thank Brexit...
https://musiciansunion.org.uk/working-performing/working-overseas/travelling-with-a-musical-instrument/musical-instruments-made-of-rare-materials

and Finally.. seems to be the most clear...

https://www.nottinghamcityguitars.com/about/cites-guitars/

MikeS

 @Nick23 Ive submitted my application, just have to wait now.

Nick23

It seems 1992 is the relevant year. 

Sorry just got a bee in my bonnet! 

Easy to find these woods on ebay. Should keep people busy!

I think I'll take up the recorder instead of the guitar.

MikeS

One things clear, when I 'do' get my article 10, I'm a gonna have to make a fresh trade post

Jim

99% sure CITES was lifted in regard to musical instruments recently. The fact they were covered by it was an oversight, as the whole CITES thing was meant to stop huge solid rosewood furniture.

jellyroll

Jim said:

99% sure CITES was lifted in regard to musical instruments recently. The fact they were covered by it was an oversight, as the whole CITES thing was meant to stop huge solid rosewood furniture.

....unless its Brazilian......

Jim

Aha 

MikeS

Well, so far my application has been submitted, receipt confirmed, a request for payment has been made from CITES, and my £31 has been paid. So I can only assume that indeed it is required. Ill update

Stuckfast

MikeS said:

. Everyone knows what a Lowden costs.

Um, I have no idea what a Lowden costs! I mean, obviously I can look up the prices of new ones, but I have no idea how they relate to something like this.

MikeS

Stuckfast said:

MikeS said:

. Everyone knows what a Lowden costs.

Um, I have no idea what a Lowden costs! I mean, obviously I can look up the prices of new ones, but I have no idea how they relate to something like this.

and you've got a guy @Joelbmc giving you a "wisdom" for that too <face palm>

Honestly, Its like a hive for trolls round here lately, whose sole intent is to just cause menace, thinly disguised as stupidity.

"Um"   You 'really' don't know what a used Lowden costs?, and you'd rather post a daft comment like that instead of researching?

@stuckfast Troll.

Joelbmc

I agree with him, that's why I gave him wisdom.  I think this is a beautiful guitar and I'd be very interested in owning it, but I don't know what it is worth so I don't know what I should offer in trade. There is no need to be aggressive

MikeS

@Joelbmc you won't be buying it, don't worry. I block trolls, so I don't have to be "aggressive". 

brucegill

To be honest @MikeS ; it really does help if you put a value on what you want to trade, for all involved.  I thought it was a rule, but doesn’t look like it is, I must have confused myself with another forums rules. 

MikeS

brucegill said:

To be honest @MikeS ; it really does help if you put a value on what you want to trade, for all involved.  I thought it was a rule, but doesn’t look like it is, I must have confused myself with another forums rules. 

It’s a for trade post, not a for sale post. No price is necessary. And no, it wouldn’t have helped me in any way having one. It might help you though on your own sale or trade post.