What's your favourite auto-wah / envelope filter?

Dominic

Snow White

hotpickups

Neilybob said:

merlin said:

I'm a big fan of the yet-to-be-released @ThorpyFX /Coggins masterpiece based on the Meatball. Until that arrives, Meatball is genius beyond all else, although totally impractical. So I'm using a 3leaf audio Wonderlove deluxe. 

Kicks the funk out of most other pedals I've tried. 

I wonder if that’s the pedal on Chris Bucks board that he can’t mention.

https://youtu.be/_8eEak3IzAo?si=ZwYQG7oePrrKo7bj

I bet it is too 

Lebarque

What's the difference between an envelope filter and an auto wah?

hotpickups

Lebarque said:

What's the difference between an envelope filter and an auto wah?

I’ve always thought that they were the same thing tbh  

ICBM

hotpickups said:

Lebarque said:

What's the difference between an envelope filter and an auto wah?

I’ve always thought that they were the same thing tbh  

Sort of. An envelope filter applies a filter effect that tracks the input signal strength (envelope), whereas an auto-wah really means one where it’s controlled by an oscillator - but it’s also used for an envelope filter by some manufacturers. Or you can have both in the same pedal, eg the Boss AW-2.

WeZ84

hotpickups said:

Lebarque said:

What's the difference between an envelope filter and an auto wah?

I’ve always thought that they were the same thing tbh  

On an auto-wah, the sweep of the filter is controlled by an oscillator - you change the settings of the oscillator with the knobs to adjust the sweep.

An envelope filter reacts to the level of the input signal  - so how hard you hit the strings determines how the filter reacts. The controls will adjust things like how loud the input signal needs to be for the filter to be fully open etc.

hotpickups

WeZ84 said:

hotpickups said:

Lebarque said:

What's the difference between an envelope filter and an auto wah?

I’ve always thought that they were the same thing tbh  

On an auto-wah, the sweep of the filter is controlled by an oscillator - you change the settings of the oscillator with the knobs to adjust the sweep.

An envelope filter reacts to the level of the input signal  - so how hard you hit the strings determines how the filter reacts. The controls will adjust things like how loud the input signal needs to be for the filter to be fully open etc.

Ah I’m definitely in the envelope filter camp then 

UnclePsychosis

hotpickups said:

WeZ84 said:

hotpickups said:

Lebarque said:

What's the difference between an envelope filter and an auto wah?

I’ve always thought that they were the same thing tbh  

On an auto-wah, the sweep of the filter is controlled by an oscillator - you change the settings of the oscillator with the knobs to adjust the sweep.

An envelope filter reacts to the level of the input signal  - so how hard you hit the strings determines how the filter reacts. The controls will adjust things like how loud the input signal needs to be for the filter to be fully open etc.

Ah I’m definitely in the envelope filter camp then 

Its pretty rare to find a pedal that does autowah but not envelope filter, mind you. 

barrettisgold

I was comparing a few filters I had a while back (video link below), they are all quite different to set up and have different features but in the recording I dialled them in to sound similar. 

Bear in mind they are all going into the MF-101 which has a drive that remains active even when the effect is bypassed.

I appreciate they might be hard to come by mow as all are discontinued as well as prices getting inflated, but the FX-25B should be able to be picked up quite cheap. I modded this one as it had a bit of a level drop. It now has a bit of a boost which is why it sounds fuller than the others.

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/4f9p15pyvdknqypa1281r/Envelope_ME.mov?rlkey=dxn6ilbm3fa65bx8mw7gacpdq&raw=1

ICBM

barrettisgold said:

I appreciate they might be hard to come by mow as all are discontinued as well as prices getting inflated, but the FX-25B should be able to be picked up quite cheap. I modded this one as it had a bit of a level drop. It now has a bit of a boost which is why it sounds fuller than the others.

I don’t know why the 3-knob one was designed like that - the level drop is notorious. The 2-knob one doesn’t have it.

daveyh

I’m liking the Tsakalis Phonkify, not pulled the trigger yet but very close.

AntonHunter

Surprise choice for me is the Earthquaker Night Wire. I bought it as a harmonic trem, but use it as an envelope filter more often than not. And it's purple. And sparkly.

BGG

Maton AF9 

hotpickups

Currently I use the Strymon Zelzah for my envelope sounds. Absolute brilliant and versatile pedal. I’ll probably be buying Thorpy’s meatball inspired pedal though when it’s released. Depending on available funds of course  

Seziertisch

Subdecay Prometheus DLX and Proteus are worth a look