What delay for Frippertronics?

oh_pollo

Since I can't get my hands on a couple of Revox tape machines, what's a good delay pedal to get for that "No Pussyfooting" sound-on-sound effect? Apparently you need a delay with at least 4 seconds of delay available to get into Frippertronics territory and definitely a delay not a looper.

steamabacus

The one that springs to mind is the Strymon Volante though I have no personal experience of using it. Does it have enough delay time? It definitely does sound-on-sound.

steamabacus

If software is an option there is an old VST called Elottronix (and it's free). Based on Fripp's revox setup.

https://www.kvraudio.com/product/elottronix_xl_by_elogoxa

Wardy66

Loads out there - delays not loopers:
A few spring to mind:
Eventide Rose - 50 second delay
Meris LVX - 5 second delay
HX Stomp or HX One - (8 second delay) this does loops which fade out with each repeat so double good.
Strymon El Capistan and Volante - SOS looping mode
Chase Bliss Habit - 60 second delay
Soma Cosmos - weird multiple long delays
DD-500 I think
Empress Echosystem - 10 second delay
TC Flashback - 8 second delay I think , plus Triple delay has three lots of this.
Eventide Ultratap - 10 second delay

Grangousier

The SOS mode in the Volante works really well for it. 

Keefy

TC Flashback Mini does 7 seconds of delay. If only someone were selling one in the classifieds…

english_bob

Wardy66 said:

Loads out there - delays not loopers:
A few spring to mind:
Eventide Rose - 50 second delay
Meris LVX - 5 second delay
HX Stomp or HX One - (8 second delay) this does loops which fade out with each repeat so double good.
Strymon El Capistan and Volante - SOS looping mode
Chase Bliss Habit - 60 second delay
Soma Cosmos - weird multiple long delays
DD-500 I think
Empress Echosystem - 10 second delay
TC Flashback - 8 second delay I think , plus Triple delay has three lots of this.
Eventide Ultratap - 10 second delay

Yes, it'll do up to 10 seconds. A couple of the modes have shorter maximum times.

Wazmeister

SOS in the El Cap

Springywheel

I was going to suggest the old ehx 16 second delay but I checked the price and they're going for over 500 used... 

oh_pollo

Springywheel said:

I was going to suggest the old ehx 16 second delay but I checked the price and they're going for over 500 used... 

And that's for the reissue which is supposedly different enough from the original as to be not worth bothering about.

personalnadir

Springywheel said:

I was going to suggest the old ehx 16 second delay but I checked the price and they're going for over 500 used... 

Joe's Pedals have a version by Maneco Labs for more reasonable money

https://joespedals.com/products/sixteen-seconds-delay-vintage-compact

octatonic

Old Frippertronics or what he currently does now?

Doing it the old way then pretty much any delay with expression pedal support will work.
Or use a volume pedal and a mixer- Gigrig do some useful products, like the Wetter Box that might help.

Fripp uses Eventide processors now.
H3000 and H8000 from memory (is that a pun? If so I want credit).
It will be difficult to get that sort of functionality out of a pedal, but the H90 will be the closest.

It isn't really the delay that matters, it is how you construct the signal path of multiple delays, in series/parallel, feeding one into the other and such.
I'm not looking to nail Fripp's thing, but rather use it as a starting point for my own thing.
Fractal products do a great job for me.
I have a number of FM9 patches that give me unpredictable results that require me to respond in the moment to avoid a car crash.

The pedal that I love the most is Hexe Revolver DX.
It might not have the right delay time for you, but I've got it set up as a momentary capture, so any line I play can be captured, reversed and played back with a fade out over time, which is adjustable.

EricTheWeary

Chords of Orion has a whole bunch of videos on frippertronics and getting the effects from different delays from a tc mini Flashback and upward in price. His favourite seems to be the tc Ditto X4 which, of course, isn’t actually a regular delay pedal but it does that fading loops thing. 

Wardy66

Fripp has been spotted using a Helix recently.
But yes, Chords of Orion is a good source to look at a version of Frippertronics..

Kittyfrisk

Might not be guitar-ish, but a set of Northumbrian pipes & some practice would get you most of the way there