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Jim54Jim54 Frets: 244
I've had this MIJ 62 double bound tele for years and do love how it plays (when it's behaving). However, whenever I change strings (which I've just done after fitting a Lollar 52 bridge pickup), half of the strings are dull sounding as they never seem to sit in the saddle grooves properly, and you have to faff around for ages to get it sounding right. Also never liked the way the strings contact the back of the bridge before they go under the bigsby bar.

Are there any decent replacement bridges that do a better job?


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  • SchnozzSchnozz Frets: 1948
    This calls for a caped @ICBM ;
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  • robgilmorobgilmo Frets: 3455
    Jim54 said:
    I've had this MIJ 62 double bound tele for years and do love how it plays (when it's behaving). However, whenever I change strings (which I've just done after fitting a Lollar 52 bridge pickup), half of the strings are dull sounding as they never seem to sit in the saddle grooves properly, and you have to faff around for ages to get it sounding right. Also never liked the way the strings contact the back of the bridge before they go under the bigsby bar.

    Are there any decent replacement bridges that do a better job?


    Have you tried cleaning them?
    A Deuce , a Tele and a cup of tea.
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  • floeighty2floeighty2 Frets: 158
    Mastery 
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  • Jim54Jim54 Frets: 244
    robgilmo said:
    Jim54 said:
    I've had this MIJ 62 double bound tele for years and do love how it plays (when it's behaving). However, whenever I change strings (which I've just done after fitting a Lollar 52 bridge pickup), half of the strings are dull sounding as they never seem to sit in the saddle grooves properly, and you have to faff around for ages to get it sounding right. Also never liked the way the strings contact the back of the bridge before they go under the bigsby bar.

    Are there any decent replacement bridges that do a better job?


    Have you tried cleaning them?
    They look worse than they are but it couldn't hurt.
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  • DdiggerDdigger Frets: 2366
    Not everyone's cup of tea (and I have no experience with them myself), but Wilkinson do 3 and 4 screw Bigsby mounts with rollers...

    https://wilkinsondirect.com/product/wilkinson-wbtbr-3-bridge/
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  • KurtisKurtis Frets: 644
    edited March 5
    It seems like you'd need to make sure the string is sitting in the right groove of the saddles.

    The strings look to be different distances apart in the pic. 

    It's the same with a lot of tele bridges tbf. It's a rather 'basic' design, especially with the bigsby pulling the strings back and forward. 
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  • Jim54Jim54 Frets: 244
    Kurtis said:
    It seems like you'd need to make sure the string is sitting in the right groove of the saddles.

    The strings look to be different distances apart in the pic. 

    It's the same with a lot of tele bridges tbf. 
    Yeah, the string spacing is a little off, due to having to move the strings about a bit to get an optimal ring from the strings.
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  • KurtisKurtis Frets: 644
    Are the strings also dragging across the back of the bridge? 
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  • Jim54Jim54 Frets: 244
    If you mean are the strings touching the back of the bridge, then yes.
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  • Jim54Jim54 Frets: 244
    normula1 said:
    Possibly, I'll have to look into it.
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  • ICBMICBM Frets: 72356
    Schnozz said:
    This calls for a caped @ICBM ;
    No idea, the one on my Bigsby Tele was fine, rock-solid and never a problem. I did threadlock the height screws, and I think I shortened the ends of a couple of the intonation screws which otherwise would touch the strings, but I don’t remember for sure.

    "Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone." - Walt Kowalski

    "Only two things are infinite - the universe, and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein

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  • Matt4887Matt4887 Frets: 45
    Mastery 
    Agree the Mastery Bridge is the way to go.

    I have the same Japanese 62 custom tele and the stock threaded type saddles are absolute shite.

    Fitted a Mastery bridge about 15 years ago which solved the buzzing, alignment and strings skipping between the grooves whilst playing. Definitely a worthwhile upgrade. 
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  • Jim54Jim54 Frets: 244
    Thanks everyone, I'll have a read about the mastery bridge.
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  • KurtisKurtis Frets: 644
    Would shimming the neck and raising the saddles help at all? 
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  • guitarcookie1guitarcookie1 Frets: 464
    Lower the bridge & raise the saddles to compensate?
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  • FunkfingersFunkfingers Frets: 14431
    Kurtis said:
    Would shimming the neck and raising the saddles help at all? 
    Yes. It would increase the string break angle over the bridge saddles.


    Use nylon washers to keep the bridge perpendicular to the top of the guitar. Mustang saddles to maintain the radius and eliminate the problems of the intonation screws sometimes fouling the strings. 
    You say, atom bomb. I say, tin of corned beef.
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  • ICBMICBM Frets: 72356
    Kurtis said:
    Would shimming the neck and raising the saddles help at all? 
    Lower the bridge & raise the saddles to compensate?
    Yes - I did that on mine, which is why I think I had to shorten the intonation screws. The Jazzmaster/Jaguar/Bigsby Tele bridge always works best with the saddles as high as possible in my experience.

    "Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone." - Walt Kowalski

    "Only two things are infinite - the universe, and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein

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  • FunkfingersFunkfingers Frets: 14431
    ICBM said:
    Kurtis said:
    Would shimming the neck and raising the saddles help at all? 
    Lower the bridge & raise the saddles to compensate?
    Yes - I did that on mine, which is why I think I had to shorten the intonation screws.
    This is one of the modifications that I inflicted on a Squier VM Mustang before it went to thecolourbox.
    You say, atom bomb. I say, tin of corned beef.
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  • KurtisKurtis Frets: 644
    ICBM said:
    Kurtis said:
    Would shimming the neck and raising the saddles help at all? 
    Lower the bridge & raise the saddles to compensate?
    Yes - I did that on mine, which is why I think I had to shorten the intonation screws. The Jazzmaster/Jaguar/Bigsby Tele bridge always works best with the saddles as high as possible in my experience.
    The saddles could do with being thicker. 

    I'd be tempted to make some new ones. An old bit of threaded bar isn't very...fancy. 
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