Fender Switchboard

hotpickups

Anyone got one yet? Looks really good and at a very good price. Will give the likes of Boss / Gigrig a run for their money 

https://www.andertons.co.uk/fender-switchboard-effects-operator

hotpickups

Crikey! That popular lol 

english_bob

To be fair, Fender are very late to the party so people who were likely to want a switcher probably have one already. I can't see people who already have equivalent switchers trading them in for the Switchboard, and honestly I don't see why you'd pick the Switchboard over the very similarly priced but better specced Boss ES-5.

hotpickups

english_bob said:

To be fair, Fender are very late to the party so people who were likely to want a switcher probably have one already. I can't see people who already have equivalent switchers trading them in for the Switchboard, and honestly I don't see why you'd pick the Switchboard over the very similarly priced but better specced Boss ES-5.

True. I thought the colour screen had an advantage over the Boss I felt. I’m sure it won’t take much for Boss to update that on their ES5 tbh though. One day 

english_bob

hotpickups said:

english_bob said:

To be fair, Fender are very late to the party so people who were likely to want a switcher probably have one already. I can't see people who already have equivalent switchers trading them in for the Switchboard, and honestly I don't see why you'd pick the Switchboard over the very similarly priced but better specced Boss ES-5.

True. I thought the colour screen had an advantage over the Boss I felt. I’m sure it won’t take much for Boss to update that on their ES5 tbh though. One day 

I think that's a hardware change, not a firmware update. The screen on the ES-5 is distinctly last century.

hotpickups

english_bob said:

hotpickups said:

english_bob said:

To be fair, Fender are very late to the party so people who were likely to want a switcher probably have one already. I can't see people who already have equivalent switchers trading them in for the Switchboard, and honestly I don't see why you'd pick the Switchboard over the very similarly priced but better specced Boss ES-5.

True. I thought the colour screen had an advantage over the Boss I felt. I’m sure it won’t take much for Boss to update that on their ES5 tbh though. One day 

I think that's a hardware change, not a firmware update. The screen on the ES-5 is distinctly last century.

Yeah. I mean Boss could always bring out an updated hardware version to bring it into todays standard / expectations etc 

stickyfiddle

I've always liked the idea of this sort of thing but never had one. Part of that is because they're so damn big. You have to lose like 3 other pedals to make room for one of these, or the Boss, etc. At least the ES-5 has some built in effects to make up for it

EDIT: nope I googled and apparently it's the MS3 that has built in fx. Anyway, my point remains! 

hotpickups

I use a Disaster Area DPC 5 for my switching nowadays. Not as powerful as the boss etc but it’s fine for my usage. Small too 

english_bob

hotpickups said:

english_bob said:

I think that's a hardware change, not a firmware update. The screen on the ES-5 is distinctly last century.

Yeah. I mean Boss could always bring out an updated hardware version to bring it into todays standard / expectations etc 

I don't know that I see the point. You wouldn't gain anything in terms of functionality by having a colour screen, and you'd need a significantly bigger unit to accommodate a touch screen (which goes to @stickyfiddle 's point about size). Even then, I don't know that you gain anything in terms of usability.

Bluetooth connectivity to a phone app instead of the PC editor would be an improvement...

hotpickups

english_bob said:

hotpickups said:

english_bob said:

I think that's a hardware change, not a firmware update. The screen on the ES-5 is distinctly last century.

Yeah. I mean Boss could always bring out an updated hardware version to bring it into todays standard / expectations etc 

I don't know that I see the point. You wouldn't gain anything in terms of functionality by having a colour screen, and you'd need a significantly bigger unit to accommodate a touch screen (which goes to @stickyfiddle 's point about size). Even then, I don't know that you gain anything in terms of usability.

Bluetooth connectivity to a phone app instead of the PC editor would be an improvement...

Nothing about usability. Maybe more about visibility.  Just keeping up with what’s out there now with Boss’s competitors etc 

english_bob

stickyfiddle said:

I've always liked the idea of this sort of thing but never had one. Part of that is because they're so damn big. You have to lose like 3 other pedals to make room for one of these, or the Boss, etc. At least the ES-5 has some built in effects to make up for it

EDIT: nope I googled and apparently it's the MS3 that has built in fx. Anyway, my point remains! 

You could do all the same things with a MIDI controller and a remote switcher like the Morningstar ML-5/10 which could be hidden under a slanted board to give you back some space.

stickyfiddle

english_bob said:

stickyfiddle said:

I've always liked the idea of this sort of thing but never had one. Part of that is because they're so damn big. You have to lose like 3 other pedals to make room for one of these, or the Boss, etc. At least the ES-5 has some built in effects to make up for it

EDIT: nope I googled and apparently it's the MS3 that has built in fx. Anyway, my point remains! 

You could do all the same things with a MIDI controller and a remote switcher like the Morningstar ML-5/10 which could be hidden under a slanted board to give you back some space.

Yeah but honestly fuck that shit!  

hotpickups

stickyfiddle said:

english_bob said:

stickyfiddle said:

I've always liked the idea of this sort of thing but never had one. Part of that is because they're so damn big. You have to lose like 3 other pedals to make room for one of these, or the Boss, etc. At least the ES-5 has some built in effects to make up for it

EDIT: nope I googled and apparently it's the MS3 that has built in fx. Anyway, my point remains! 

You could do all the same things with a MIDI controller and a remote switcher like the Morningstar ML-5/10 which could be hidden under a slanted board to give you back some space.

Yeah but honestly fuck that shit!  

lol do you know what. I’m starting to feel the same about it all. Prefer to keep things simple these days  

stickyfiddle

hotpickups said:

stickyfiddle said:

english_bob said:

stickyfiddle said:

I've always liked the idea of this sort of thing but never had one. Part of that is because they're so damn big. You have to lose like 3 other pedals to make room for one of these, or the Boss, etc. At least the ES-5 has some built in effects to make up for it

EDIT: nope I googled and apparently it's the MS3 that has built in fx. Anyway, my point remains! 

You could do all the same things with a MIDI controller and a remote switcher like the Morningstar ML-5/10 which could be hidden under a slanted board to give you back some space.

Yeah but honestly fuck that shit!  

lol do you know what. I’m starting to feel the same about it all. Prefer to keep things simple these days  

Yeah, I mean.. I will admit I'm considering an HX Stomp or HXFX for my main board at the moment, but at no point do I want to get some complex that having a big extra switcher to 1) buy 2) program 3) power and 4) lug about becomes my best option. these days I'd honesty just go full Helix if I ever felt the need for that much on-the-fly switchability.

slacker

I've got a gigrig midi 8. Bought it used for 150 quid. It's in my sock draw. Long story.

As others said, it's the wrong colour and it doesn't do anything more than other products that have been around longer.