EU …interfering again !!!

Voxsupertwin

The EU Climate change/Energy conservation Commission has presented a policy to the EU Parliament to introduce legislation to stop the manufacture, importing and selling of thermal electronic tubes/valves. It’s a follow on policy from that which signalled the end of the traditional light bulb. Also prohibited will be the manufacture, importing or sale of any products which feature tubes/valves. JJ TESLA in the Czech Republic say they have instructed their lawyers to initiate an appeal immediately against a policy that would mean the end of their business. Fender ( Europe ) also expressed concern, particularly with the current shortage of tubes due to the Russian/Ukranian war and the deteriorating relationship with China. It seems likely that due to the success of the Tonemaster Range worldwide, which are tube free, Fender will stop production of all PCB/Tube featured amplifiers and just make a very limited quantity of handwired amps at their Custom Shop facility. It seems that us older people are witnessing the end of ICE cars and now our beloved valve amps…. I think I’ll go and switch on my AC30 on and enjoy the smell of hot valves !!!

musteatbrain

I wonder what date it is 

Voxsupertwin

musteatbrain said:

I wonder what date it is 

10/10 Sherlock…

Fez

Looks like we might be converting our valve combos into speaker cabinets.

jellybelly

Yeah fuck the environment and anyone who comes after us

Emiel

@Voxsupertwin , please share the source :-)

Fez

Given the scale of valve manufacture against solid state devices I would doubt that the environmental impact of valves is significant. 

Tannin

Card-carrying environmentalist here. The EU proposal is utterly stupid. The total contribution of thermionic valves to global energy use and warming is so ridiculously small as to be for all practical purposes unmeasurable. 

Someone needs his stupid head kicked in.

jellybelly

Fez said:

Given the scale of valve manufacture against solid state devices I would doubt that the environmental impact of valves is significant. 

Very true. It's more the general sentiment that bothers me. The notion that ICE cars or inefficient light bulbs are being 'taken away' from people is problematic.

But I bet it's only problematic for the next 15-20 years. Then it'll be markedly less problematic. 

Musicwolf

Emiel said:

@Voxsupertwin , please share the source :-)

Here's a link to the article

euan

Aren’t valves still actually used in certain medical and scientific equipment?

jellybelly

Tannin said:

Card-carrying environmentalist here. The EU proposal is utterly stupid. The total contribution of thermionic valves to global energy use and warming is so ridiculously small as to be for all practical purposes unmeasurable. 

Someone needs his stupid head kicked in.

Is there an element here that they're being forced to 'tinker around the edges' since big oil and the car manufacturers have essentially guaranteed the ICE will go on existing for a long time, and the challenge to that is effectively over?

BluesLover

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StuartMac290

Top work, this, genuinely one of the best I've seen! Outstanding 

Voxsupertwin

The source is 1/4/24

S56035

Do the people who have actually started to discuss it as a real thing feel a little bit silly?

newi123

Voxsupertwin said:

The EU Climate change/Energy conservation Commission has presented a policy to the EU Parliament to introduce legislation to stop the manufacture, importing and selling of thermal electronic tubes/valves. It’s a follow on policy from that which signalled the end of the traditional light bulb. Also prohibited will be the manufacture, importing or sale of any products which feature tubes/valves. JJ TESLA in the Czech Republic say they have instructed their lawyers to initiate an appeal immediately against a policy that would mean the end of their business. Fender ( Europe ) also expressed concern, particularly with the current shortage of tubes due to the Russian/Ukranian war and the deteriorating relationship with China. It seems likely that due to the success of the Tonemaster Range worldwide, which are tube free, Fender will stop production of all PCB/Tube featured amplifiers and just make a very limited quantity of handwired amps at their Custom Shop facility. It seems that us older people are witnessing the end of ICE cars and now our beloved valve amps…. I think I’ll go and switch on my AC30 on and enjoy the smell of hot valves !!!

Seems legit - I've also heard that all guitar speakers will have to be replaced by metric versions by 2025. So stock up on those 12 inch speakers while you can folks!

Voxsupertwin

S56035 said:

Do the people who have actually started to discuss it as a real thing feel a little bit silly?

If so, so what, we all need a laugh these days, there isn’t much left to laugh about unfortunately …

fretmeister

I enjoyed it! 

jellybelly

S56035 said:

Do the people who have actually started to discuss it as a real thing feel a little bit silly?

Lol yes. Too busy with toddlers to know what day it is 

Voxsupertwin

Worryingly though my jape could one day be real the way things are going !