Who has shot nitro over gloss poly just to change the colour. Did it work out?

rze99

I have an idea to transform and existing nice resonant body I like with a new nitro colour and clear coat.
Has anyone shot nitro over poly just to change the colour. Did it work out? I get that you need to sand it before application.  This would be a DIY home garden job in the summer, hanging it from the washing line on a still day.

TheMarlin

I’m sure Fender did this on a few models.  

Kittyfrisk

^ LOL/Wiz coin toss,  LOL won 

rze99

TheMarlin said:

I’m sure Fender did this on a few models.  

....hanging it from the washing line?

rze99

JezWynd

TheMarlin said:

I’m sure Fender did this on a few models.  

I think the Classic 50’s Lacquer model was nitro over the standard urethane finish.

TheMarlin

JezWynd said:

TheMarlin said:

I’m sure Fender did this on a few models.  

I think the Classic 50’s Lacquer model was nitro over the standard urethane finish.

Thanks. Wisdom awarded!

SteveRobinson

Me
https://manchesterguitartech.co.uk/2011/04/11/shell-pink-stratocaster-refinish/

At home, in my garden.

thermionic

I recently fixed a damaged part of the finish on my Classic Lacquer Strat and although I don’t doubt that there’s a layer of some kind of poly-something on there, it’s not a “standard urethane finish”. Fender have been doing something similar since the early 60s of course.

I think I’ve seen videos of bodies stripped with a heat gun with the main finish coming off easily but not the tougher sanding sealer. Nitro rattle cans over this might work well?

NCo

JezWynd said:

TheMarlin said:

I’m sure Fender did this on a few models.  

I think the Classic 50’s Lacquer model was nitro over the standard urethane finish.

Isn't that nitro over poly sealer?

rze99

SteveRobinson said:

Me
https://manchesterguitartech.co.uk/2011/04/11/shell-pink-stratocaster-refinish/

At home, in my garden.

That's cool and exactly what I need to do 

Kittyfrisk

NCo said:

JezWynd said:

TheMarlin said:

I’m sure Fender did this on a few models.  

I think the Classic 50’s Lacquer model was nitro over the standard urethane finish.

Isn't that nitro over poly sealer?

Fullerplast polyester sealer was Fenders way from the 60's.

JezWynd

NCo said:

JezWynd said:

TheMarlin said:

I’m sure Fender did this on a few models.  

I think the Classic 50’s Lacquer model was nitro over the standard urethane finish.

Isn't that nitro over poly sealer?

When I was researching buying my first one, around 2014, I read review that said the lacquer was applied over the usual finish. Having had a few examples of standard and lacquer over the years, it seems to me that they may have taken the lightest weight standard models out of the line for a nitro coat and shipping in a hard case. However they're finished, they're one of the best bang for buck Teles out there imo.

NCo

Kittyfrisk said:

NCo said:

JezWynd said:

TheMarlin said:

I’m sure Fender did this on a few models.  

I think the Classic 50’s Lacquer model was nitro over the standard urethane finish.

Isn't that nitro over poly sealer?

Fullerplast polyester sealer was Fenders way from the 60's.

I am aware of that, I was just making the distinction between nitro over poly sealer and nitro over poly finish.

NCo

JezWynd said:

NCo said:

JezWynd said:

TheMarlin said:

I’m sure Fender did this on a few models.  

I think the Classic 50’s Lacquer model was nitro over the standard urethane finish.

Isn't that nitro over poly sealer?

When I was researching buying my first one, around 2014, I read review that said the lacquer was applied over the usual finish. Having had a few examples of standard and lacquer over the years, it seems to me that they may have taken the lightest weight standard models out of the line for a nitro coat and shipping in a hard case. However they're finished, they're one of the best bang for buck Teles out there imo.

I'm not a nitro snob, I was only asking because I thought that the OP wants to use nitro over a poly finished guitar. I'm not an expert, and people will surely correct me on this, but isn't the finish process (which is the OP's question) different in nitro over poly sealer vs nitro over poly finish?

SteveRobinson

NCo said:

I'm not a nitro snob, I was only asking because I thought that the OP wants to use nitro over a poly finished guitar. I'm not an expert, and people will surely correct me on this, but isn't the finish process (which is the OP's question) different in nitro over poly sealer vs nitro over poly finish?

The process would be identical. The finish on the "finished" guitar might be a bit thicker but not much. Most of the thickness is generally due to the base coat which is slathered on to hide any imperfections then sanded smooth and a thin colour coat added because the colour is more expensive than the sealer.

NCo

SteveRobinson said:

NCo said:

I'm not a nitro snob, I was only asking because I thought that the OP wants to use nitro over a poly finished guitar. I'm not an expert, and people will surely correct me on this, but isn't the finish process (which is the OP's question) different in nitro over poly sealer vs nitro over poly finish?

The process would be identical. The finish on the "finished" guitar might be a bit thicker but not much. Most of the thickness is generally due to the base coat which is slathered on to hide any imperfections then sanded smooth and a thin colour coat added because the colour is more expensive than the sealer.

Interseting, thanks!