Any benefit of a SD-1w over an SD-1….

Lewy

….. if I’m only using it to boost and tighten up an already crunchy Marshall sound? Are they better made/quieter/??

Thanks!

LionAquaLooper

IMO no. I opted for the standard SD1 for £30 just recently. That's a whole lot of money I saved myself by not going Waza. 

monquixote

They have an additional mode with slightly more level, gain and bass and they use better components so should have a lower noise floor. 

I have one it's great, but then so is the regular SD-1

Dave_Mc

I've never tried the Waza, but if you are willing to spend a bit more, the MXR Super Badass OD is basically an SD1 with a few more options for tweaking the tone. Full disclosure, I got mine cheap(ish) on Thomann and had to send it back because (according to them) it was shorting out, but it's working fine now (touch wood). And it's fair to say that I probably dial it in to sound more or less identical to an SD1. So yeah. I'm not sure if that's a recommendation or not. 

ICBM

Until recently the SD-1 had an annoying issue with a small amount of buzzy distortion leaking through into the bypass sound, but the standard model has now had this cured - the Waza never had it. It's only an issue if you set the pedal with a fair amount of gain (above about halfway) and use a clean sound on the amp anyway - if you're using it as a boost into a dirty amp you won't hear it.

How to tell them apart (if it matters) - https://stinkfoot.se/archives/7458

soma1975

Love the SD-1 but fancy the MXR Badass OD because being able to dial a smidge more bass in would be ace. 

Dave_Mc

soma1975 said:

Love the SD-1 but fancy the MXR Badass OD because being able to dial a smidge more bass in would be ace. 

Yeah there definitely is an element of "I know I'm dialling it in more or less exactly like an SD1, but at least I know I'm choosing to do that!" with mine. There is a fair bit more versatility with it (I think it goes a little cleaner at minimum gain too, for example), whether you actually need it or not!

Lewy

Thanks for the comments folks. Looks like a bog standard one will do the trick for what I want. Not seeing any out there for £30 though....you must have got lucky @LionAquaLooper !

LionAquaLooper

Lewy said:

Thanks for the comments folks. Looks like a bog standard one will do the trick for what I want. Not seeing any out there for £30 though....you must have got lucky @LionAquaLooper !

Yea i suppose I did. Bought one from another TFB member here just last week who happened to live not far from me. It's one of the newer surface mount ones (ie cant be modded) and the backplate's been replaced so most likely why it went so cheap!  

monquixote

Dave_Mc said:

soma1975 said:

Love the SD-1 but fancy the MXR Badass OD because being able to dial a smidge more bass in would be ace. 

Yeah there definitely is an element of "I know I'm dialling it in more or less exactly like an SD1, but at least I know I'm choosing to do that!" with mine. There is a fair bit more versatility with it (I think it goes a little cleaner at minimum gain too, for example), whether you actually need it or not!

I'd say it's a more isn't better.

I had one and it's very good but I still prefer the SD-1

It's like when you get a 6 knob phaser and you spend 3 hours making it sound almost but not quite like a phase 90

Reverend

The custom mode on the waza has more bass available, and to my ears sound
 better. I had a waza, an old modded basic, two mxr zall wyldes and the does it doom bower power. 
I do have the badass OD as well but i think that sound a bit more TS-like

Dave_Mc

monquixote said:

Dave_Mc said:

soma1975 said:

Love the SD-1 but fancy the MXR Badass OD because being able to dial a smidge more bass in would be ace. 

Yeah there definitely is an element of "I know I'm dialling it in more or less exactly like an SD1, but at least I know I'm choosing to do that!" with mine. There is a fair bit more versatility with it (I think it goes a little cleaner at minimum gain too, for example), whether you actually need it or not!

I'd say it's a more isn't better.

I had one and it's very good but I still prefer the SD-1

It's like when you get a 6 knob phaser and you spend 3 hours making it sound almost but not quite like a phase 90

LOL Yeah I know what you mean. To be fair, though, I had the SD1 right beside it and I thought I had it dialled in to sound exactly the same, at least for the way I usually use it (as a boost, basically). While also having a fair bit more leeway for some other sounds- having the ability to go slightly cleaner was nice to make it not just as nasal a boost. I'm also not super-keen on the buffers in a lot of the Boss pedals... I'm not anti-buffer, but I am anti-middling buffer!

fretmeister

The extra bass on the Waza is not always needed. The SD-1 and a TS for that matter are all about pushing the amp but also removing flub.

I did have a Waza and I almost always used it in the standard mode. Then I sold it and went back to a TS!

soma1975

My amp is set up with minimal bass because I usually run it with a fuzz face and don't want it to fart out, so when using other drive pedals a bit of bass really helps to get it back to 'normal' levels of lower fequency.