Redplate CDS2 fx loop help needed

Barney

Iv set up a line 6 M13 in the fx loop of my redplate and it seems the more volume i add on the master vol of the amp the more volume of fx i get.... so its awkward for different size rooms to set a fx level because the amp volume is altered ..? ..any help or ways round this appreciated

ecc83

Do you mean the effected signal gets PROPORTIONATELY louder than the "dry"?

By definition a master volume control just makes everything louder!

Dave.

BluesyDave

I have a CDS2 but not a multi fx unit, I use individual stomp boxes.  Delays/reverb through the loop.  So I've not come across this issue.  The M13 does look quite complex to me and it does seem (at first glance) that there might be more than one way of configuring this unit.  I see there is a forum at the Line 6 website so it might be worth posting your question there as well.  Sorry can't be more help.  Good luck with your quest tho'.

Barney

ecc83;405134" said:

Do you mean the effected signal gets PROPORTIONATELY louder than the "dry"? By definition a master volume control just makes everything louder!Dave.

It seems as though just the fx get more ...for example i could have a reverb set to a nice mix but by increasing the master volume of the amp the reverb becomes overwhelming ...just far to much ...so it seems as though the master vol of the amp alters the fx mix

BluesyDave

Just looked at the CDS2 manual.....it says 'the return jack interrupts the signal path so the external effects unit must mix the wet and dry signal'.

Barney

BluesyDave;405158" said:

Just looked at the CDS2 manual.....it says 'the return jack interrupts the signal path so the external effects unit must mix the wet and dry signal'.

Thanks ..yeah had the same problem with stand alone pedals as well...but with them it was a bit easier to control ...but it makes it so you cant get a setting and leave it ...i think i will try the line 6 website ...im sure there must be something

Barney

ecc83;405134" said:

Do you mean the effected signal gets PROPORTIONATELY louder than the "dry"? By definition a master volume control just makes everything louder!Dave.

Yeah ...the fx just seem uncontrolable ..but not louder just a lot more of the fx ...so iff i had nice setting for reverb mix at lower volume ..it would be far to much when the master of the amp was turned up ...

Wazmeister

Ok. It is my understanding that the CDS2 actually has a 'loop' between the volumes, and the master volume.... This gives that 'bloom' sound which is so wonderful on the RPs.

As such, the effects loop is affected. In my experience, delays and verbs actually work well BEFORE the amp, but not so much in the effects loop.

Wazmeister

Oh, and ive just realised you were talking about a line 6 M13. Ive never found them to sit well in the loop of ANY amp... As ever, ymmv...

Barney

Thanks Warren ....i just got a message from Redplate and they say its impossible for the master volume to affect the fx...ill Pm you what i got

Wazmeister

The m13s buffer, pre amps or whatever.... Alway affected my amps. There were too many variables to get the sound levels right.... Interesting