Overdrive before or after modulation?

not_the_dj

LastMantra said:

There must be a bit of a trend for putting modulation before drive at the moment...didn't used to be like that. >:D<

All the classic EVH phaser/flanger tones are going straight into the amp.

LastMantra

not_the_dj said:

LastMantra said:

There must be a bit of a trend for putting modulation before drive at the moment...didn't used to be like that. >:D<

All the classic EVH phaser/flanger tones are going straight into the amp.

Just pedals I mean, sorry. I've not got an FX loop and I like my amp pretty dirty. 

I've heard people suggest that modulation should generally go after drive on here before though in other threads..so what gives?  :-S

LastMantra

The set up I have just now (see "shows yer pedalboard") has   drive - mod - drive - mod - amp. 

not_the_dj

LastMantra said:

I've heard people suggest that modulation should generally go after drive on here before though in other threads..so what gives?  :-S

Because there is no right answer to this one ;-)

I run all mine upfront as I use a dirty amp and usually can't be bothered setting up the extra cables to use anything in my FX loop (that's just me being lazy).

However when I do set it up "properly" I put Univibe and Phaser before drive, and chorus after. 

LastMantra

not_the_dj said:

LastMantra said:

I've heard people suggest that modulation should generally go after drive on here before though in other threads..so what gives?  :-S

Because there is no right answer to this one ;-)

The same people with different answers?

not_the_dj

LastMantra said:

not_the_dj said:

LastMantra said:

I've heard people suggest that modulation should generally go after drive on here before though in other threads..so what gives?  :-S

Because there is no right answer to this one ;-)

The same people with different answers?

Which way is the wind blowing?

LastMantra

 >:D<

RaymondLin

LastMantra;423131" said:

not_the_dj said:



LastMantra said:

There must be a bit of a trend for putting modulation before drive at the moment...didn't used to be like that. >:D<





All the classic EVH phaser/flanger tones are going straight into the amp.





Just pedals I mean, sorry. I've not got an FX loop and I like my amp pretty dirty. 

I've heard people suggest that modulation should generally go after drive on here before though in other threads..so what gives?  :-S

Well, if you have an FX loop, and want to use the gain in the amp then I thought you put the modulations in the loop.

joeyowen

hmmm, Wah, compressor, phaser before. Chorus, pitch, harmony after

But there are so many exceptions and phasers can sound great either side

Have a play, it's fun to sit and rearrange your board to see what sounds best, or is that just me?

mike_l

The most bestest solution is to have before and after, so 2 of each.....

Jalapeno

All modulation after dirt.  Except for Wah, HAS to go in front.

LastMantra

If we are counting wah then I have more dirt an mod stages.

Voxman

Modulation after distortion, followed by reverb then delays.

tone1

I have phaser and flanger before dirt and chorus, trem and delay after

Teetonetal

I have my Flanger before all overdrives and distortion, but my phaser and tremolo between a EHX SF and a Clean boost, going into a slightly crunch amp.

Works for me and I have most bases covered. 

Do what ever you like the sound of, other than that who cares?

ICBM

LastMantra said:

The set up I have just now (see "shows yer pedalboard") has   drive - mod - drive - mod - amp. 

I think this is the right answer. As the number of drive and modulation pedals tends to infinity, the probability of being able to select either combination of any two pedals approaches 1. Therefore the correct number of pedals n to own must be d+m+1. If n = d+m, buy a pedal. If d>m, the pedal to buy is a modulation, and if d<m, a drive.

Bucket

I always have drive first - now I'll have to pull my boards apart and experiment with having stuff the other way round. Thanks guys.

LastMantra

ICBM said:

LastMantra said:

The set up I have just now (see "shows yer pedalboard") has   drive - mod - drive - mod - amp. 

I think this is the right answer. As the number of drive and modulation pedals tends to infinity, the probability of being able to select either combination of any two pedals approaches 1. Therefore the correct number of pedals n to own must be d+m+1. If n = d+m, buy a pedal. If d>m, the pedal to buy is a modulation, and if d<m, a drive.

Do what?

mike_l

Bucket said:

I always have drive first - now I'll have to pull my boards apart and experiment with having stuff the other way round. Thanks guys.

Simple, get more mods, and a bigger board, and have moods before and after dirt.

It's not rocket science.