Vox Lil Night train Speaker question

jonnyburgo

Picked up one of these recently, I love it although the sound is a little lacking in body. So If I replaced the 10" speaker with something decent would it improve the sound or do the dimensions of the cab make it this way? It is quite a shallow cab at around 6 inches deep. So do I just make a new cab out of pine and put in a decent 12" speaker?

What do you think?

gubble

I had one of these and agree with your comments about the sound lacking a bit of body.

I've read online that some people have either removed or added foam to the cab to help improve the sound (either or I can't remember).

 

Many i miss that little amp.

ecc83

Do you not have another amp with speaker that you can patch across to pro-tem to see what improvement, if any might be possible.

(do you ever pass Northampton at all? I understand that you would not want to stop!)

Dave.

underdog

I fancied one of these because they look cool, no help I know

Dave_Mc

I haven't tried the amp or cab but I'm guessing most likely a bit of both. If the stock speaker is rubbish a better speaker will help but it'll still be limited (at least to a certain extent) by the small cabinet as well... I suspect ecc83 is on the money, if you can try a better speaker without wasting money that'd be the thing.

FelineGuitars

There is a simple mod - removing one of the caps on the circuitboard that makes a big improvement. 

Still sounds very voxy but cuts a tiny it of shrillness and seems to improve the perception of body.

I did it to both of mine.

Look it up - I found the details on line here

jonnyburgo

Cheers guys, Im doing the c19 mod tomorrow, I'll see how it goes

FelineGuitars

Yup - C19- that's the one.

You may still enjoy trying different cabs or speakers but the C19 mod is a good start

FelineGuitars

If anyone is interested I will be selling my 2 as I have way too many amps.

They both have the C19 mod and Martin at MJW modded them so there is a power section line in so you can just use it as a power amp with a POD or pedal or other preamp (I was running my stereo rack through two of them but have since bought Digitalscream's Marshall 20/20 power amp, so they are not being used any more)

Details are here: http://www.thefretboard.co.uk/discussion/22424/

jonnyburgo

Tomorrow I'm also sticking in a couple of EH 12ax7s and lining the cab with the filling from an old cushion

jonnyburgo

OK so Ive done a few mods, swapped out the chinese valves for EHX 12AX7's snipped C19 and stuffed the cab with cushion filling. It sounds like a proper amp now, the harsh treble has gone and the bottom end has much improved. The gain is much better too sounds more full and not ratty like before.

So a few simple mods really made the difference,The thing is though, it should sound like this out of the box.

I may try a JJ 12ax7 in V2 to see what that does though as I have one lying around.