Varitone and a Gordon Smith GS1

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frankusfrankus Frets: 4719
edited August 2015 in Making & Modding

Awesome!

I hadn't realised before how the tone control and volume affect the sound so much - the other guitars I've tried have had several pickups and I think that obscures

Downside is, I'll have to rout the cavity a little bit to fit the varitone (GS are routed for 12 mm pots!

Will also need to drill for a jack on the side OR sacrifice the tone pot.


Any of the makers/modders or players got any advice or insight? 

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  • olafgartenolafgarten Frets: 1648
    edited August 2015
    I'm sure there is space for another pot between the jack and the tone.
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  • frankusfrankus Frets: 4719

    Someone else's image but this is what the back looks like:

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  • RichardjRichardj Frets: 1538
    How about a dual concentric pot where the volume is to handle both volume and tone, freeing up the tone pot hole.
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  • frankusfrankus Frets: 4719

    hmm interesting idea, I'd like to keep the speed knobs they seem so Gordon Smith and the GS1.5 has a side-jack so it's not a biggie..

    my biggest concern is routing the cavity to fit the varitone - I might try to find a smaller 6 way switch  

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  • p90foolp90fool Frets: 31640
    Bung the Varitone in a pedal so you can use it on all your guitars, that's what I did!
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  • frankusfrankus Frets: 4719

     That's a really good idea, but I like accessing the tones really quickly - also I built a fixed varitone in my 335 - BB only uses the varitone on one setting :)

    But the GS-1 sounds lovely on all settings, and frankly I'd not use it on any of my Fenders. :)  

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  • frankusfrankus Frets: 4719

    Moved to making and modding as I'd like some solutions :)


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  • RolandRoland Frets: 8743
    How about putting the jack socket on the side of the guitar, and re-using the current hole for the varitone?
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  • frankusfrankus Frets: 4719

    Hi @Roland, that's what I'd like to do.

    As I've looked at it I don't think there's enough space in the current routing to achieve that.

    I've been looking at slimmer 6 way rotary switches too. But it looks like routing is the way forward :S

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  • jd0272jd0272 Frets: 3867
    p90fool;731123" said:
    Bung the Varitone in a pedal so you can use it on all your guitars, that's what I did!
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    "You do all the 'widdly widdly' bits, and just leave the hard stuff to me."
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  • frankusfrankus Frets: 4719
    Well I got the sharpened spoons out, side mounted the jack, enlarged the cavity for the varitone and done.

    Sounds great, looks good.
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  • paulnb57paulnb57 Frets: 3057
    Where did you get your Varitone?

    I built an ebay kit but it doesnt work.......
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  • Did your kit come without the inductor? Cheap ones don't supply this vital component!
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  • paulnb57paulnb57 Frets: 3057
    Yea it has an inductor, It was small and fiddly to assemble/solder, I probably cocked it up!....
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  • frankusfrankus Frets: 4719
    first question is if it doesn't work - is that no sound or no change?
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  • paulnb57paulnb57 Frets: 3057
    No change in the tone....

    Its in a single pickup tele, volume, tone and Varitone wired to the live and earth on the jack socket.......
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  • frankusfrankus Frets: 4719
    Sounds like a there might be a break in the connection.
    The obvious check is that the choke wiring both wires on the same coil?

    http://music-electronics-forum.com/attachments/1071d1192318596-varitone.gif

    Otherwise check the continuity with a meter if you have one well worth getting if not

    Good luck Sir ;)
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