Bass machine head rattle

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EricTheWearyEricTheWeary Frets: 16299
edited October 2015 in Making & Modding
So my £60 Vintage bass is a lovely thing but it is rattly. It sounds like it is coming from the headstock, in particular the machine heads. Indeed if you hold the elephant ears the rattle goes away. I think it's how they sit within the machine head mechanism ( very slightly loose) but it may well not be. Any thoughts on how to fix this? I haven't actually plugged it into anything yet so I don't know if the rattle is transmitted electronically but without it the bass is loud enough for reasonable home practice ( by my son who has gone from never picking up a bass to learning Foo Fighter bass lines within an hour!).
Tipton is a small fishing village in the borough of Sandwell. 
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  • ecc83ecc83 Frets: 1638

    You will need to take the machine heads off and see what is rattling in the mechanism. You might be able to squeeze things up tighter in a vice or fettle them with a small hammer.

    One solution occurs? Feed  some PTFE plumbers tape into the worm gear? In the limit, buy some better quality mechs but that could cost more than the bass!

    Dave.

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  • EricTheWearyEricTheWeary Frets: 16299
    Cheers Dave. The PTFE tape crossed my mind too. http://i1278.photobucket.com/albums/y513/phlplls/Mobile Uploads/2015-10/47A5FD69-1950-4FDC-A4CD-2505460949D0_zpsfuzjq0t1.jpg I thought I had posted an illustrative photo last night but don't seem to have done so.
    Tipton is a small fishing village in the borough of Sandwell. 
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  • ICBMICBM Frets: 72540
    It's often the keys themselves rattling within the split shafts because the rivetting isn't tight enough. You can try hammering them tighter, but it's easier and often more effective just to wick some superglue into them.

    As long as the big screws are tight there's not a lot else to rattle on these.

    "Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone." - Walt Kowalski

    "Only two things are infinite - the universe, and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein

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  • EricTheWearyEricTheWeary Frets: 16299
    I'll double check the big screws, a little light hammering and then superglue or tape. When I bought it I heard it through an amp and it seemed fine so it's probably ok to use just quite an annoying rattle played unplugged.

    Picking up a bass for the first time in years it seems huge!
    Tipton is a small fishing village in the borough of Sandwell. 
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  • WezVWezV Frets: 16750
    If in doubt break out the blu-tac and attach it to different parts, although not on the gears.

    I agree with ICBM about the elephant ears being a likely source
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  • Is the bushing on the front of the headstock loose? I had this on my strat after I changed the machine heads; just needed a quick tighten and all cured.

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  • EricTheWearyEricTheWeary Frets: 16299
    I'll try that as well, it might be very simple but I wanted advice before I started and not damage the machine heads, especially as new ones might be more than the cost of the bass! Even new strings would be a significant cost against its value!
    Tipton is a small fishing village in the borough of Sandwell. 
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  • CabicularCabicular Frets: 2214
    I've got a 70s precision and it does the same thing on the A
    I just wack a rubber band round it and the E when I'm recording 
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  • Was going to say - on a £60 bass fixing it with blu tack or an elastic band would probably work just fine!
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  • EricTheWearyEricTheWeary Frets: 16299
    Had a go with general tightening up. I noticed the bushings were coming adrift of the headstock wood and managed to get the posts properly back in - although when you bring the low E up to tune this pulls the post out a couple of mill. Not ideal but not a real problem either. Buzzing gone down a bit. I can't see where I could pour super glue so I still need to experiment with tape or rubber bands or blue tak.
    Tipton is a small fishing village in the borough of Sandwell. 
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