Clean amp metal guys.

professorben

Ok, I'm starting to favour the tone of my pedals ( ocd and riot clones and Boss SD-1w) into the clean channel of my Engl screamer, than the lead channel itself. Less compressed and a bit more open. But that got me wondering, do any notable heavy rock or metal guys get their dirt from pedals into a clean amp? I could only really come up with Satch in his early days ( Marshall with a DS-1) I'm aware is common for blues and rock guys, but the heavier end of the spectrum?

jpttaylor

I can't say for sure, but I'd put good money on a band/guitarist using a Boss HM-2 into a clean amp - a lot of gain available on there.

fretmeister

I suppose you could say Dimebag - his early Randalls were entirely solid state and the MXR signature pedal really does get the sound right. I haven't investigated it, but it wouldn't surprise me if the pedal guts were remarkably similar to the amp preamp.

I used to use a Fender Blues Deluxe combo with an AMT Legend 2 R2 pedal. I got Fender cleans and Rectifier dirt. Before I tried it I did wonder if the speaker in the Fender would get a bit flubby, but I never play lower than drop C and it sounded great.

The AMT also took clean boosts really well too - I had a Suhr Koko Boost in front to give a mid boost for solos.

jamiexsilver

There's a Instrumental black(ish) metal band from New York called sannhet, the guitarist from them uses a fender twin clean with a ocd in front, sounds great.

Dopesick

Greg Anderson from Goatsnake uses a RAT into a Sunn Model T. Although I'm not sure he uses this set up anymore on the new album.

digitalscream

professorben said:

Ok, I'm starting to favour the tone of my pedals ( ocd and riot clones and Boss SD-1w) into the clean channel of my Engl screamer, than the lead channel itself. Less compressed and a bit more open. But that got me wondering, do any notable heavy rock or metal guys get their dirt from pedals into a clean amp? I could only really come up with Satch in his early days ( Marshall with a DS-1) I'm aware is common for blues and rock guys, but the heavier end of the spectrum?

Even when Satch had his Peavey JSX, he only used the clean channel with the Satchurator in front.

BintyTwanger77

Didn't Metallica use dirt pedals into a JC120, or was that amp just for their clean/chorus tones?

timmysoft

I was in a pop metal band and I used a vc30 with a fuzz infront. Metal.

professorben

digitalscream said:

professorben said:

Ok, I'm starting to favour the tone of my pedals ( ocd and riot clones and Boss SD-1w) into the clean channel of my Engl screamer, than the lead channel itself. Less compressed and a bit more open. But that got me wondering, do any notable heavy rock or metal guys get their dirt from pedals into a clean amp? I could only really come up with Satch in his early days ( Marshall with a DS-1) I'm aware is common for blues and rock guys, but the heavier end of the spectrum?

Even when Satch had his Peavey JSX, he only used the clean channel with the Satchurator in front.

I can fully understand that, having owned a JSX.

professorben

BintyTwanger77 said:

Didn't Metallica use dirt pedals into a JC120, or was that amp just for their clean/chorus tones?

As far as I understand it was just for the cleans, the dirt on the Black album, came from a boogie preamp into a Marshall power amp, but I may be wrong on the dirt side of things, just remember it from an article a few years back.

monquixote

BintyTwanger77 said:

Didn't Metallica use dirt pedals into a JC120, or was that amp just for their clean/chorus tones?

Pretty sure it was just as a clean amp for the chorused picky bits

professorben

fretmeister said:

I suppose you could say Dimebag - his early Randalls were entirely solid state and the MXR signature pedal really does get the sound right. I haven't investigated it, but it wouldn't surprise me if the pedal guts were remarkably similar to the amp preamp.

I used to use a Fender Blues Deluxe combo with an AMT Legend 2 R2 pedal. I got Fender cleans and Rectifier dirt. Before I tried it I did wonder if the speaker in the Fender would get a bit flubby, but I never play lower than drop C and it sounded great.

The AMT also took clean boosts really well too - I had a Suhr Koko Boost in front to give a mid boost for solos.

AMT are a new one on me, is that a specific pedal or a brand?

samzadgan

depends on what kind of metal...but yes...off the top of my head;

Mike Scheidt (YOB) uses custom BAT pedal based on the old Ross distortions into clean marshall/marshall type amps.
Mike Sullivan (Russian Circles) uses clean Verellen amps with various drive pedals
Nick DiSalvo (Elder) uses Fuzz into clean-ish amp

there are plenty more too...

AMT_Electronics

Check this out http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/262382073945

jeztone2

Im not really a metal guy, but I do Classic Rock alt type stuff. I use a Goosoniqueworx 7thvn, which to me is the best "amp in a box' tone ever. But they also do a higher gain variant the Kult pedal. Id check them out. There JFET & you can run them at 12 or 18 volts. The do sound amazing IMHO