Session guys, what do you use in the studio or home (remote sessions)?

hubobulous

From my experience, both the Suhr and the Rivera Rockcrushers are excellent.

digitalscream

John_A said:

What's the difference, in terms of recorded sound between a resistive load like the Jettenuator and a reactive load?

In my experience, reactive loads result in a sound that's better than any modeller (once you've used cab impulses). Resistive loads kinda make every amp sound similar, and there's a fuzziness to the low-end that no amount of EQ will fix.

edenfield99

thomasross20 said:

I must check out that Def Leppard album to hear what it sounds like. 

You don't need to listen to a Def Leppard album to know it sounds shite

Nerine

If I have to add any "producer guitars" to any of the productions I work on, always make sure I have handy my Suhr, just simply because its intonation and setup is bang on and when adding smaller "jangly" guitar parts their tuning usually needs to be absolutely perfect especially when there's a lot of layers and tracks going on. Amp wise, I'll usually have my 800, Einstein or Kemper close to hand.

Danny1969

hubobulous;1045393" said:

I watched a rig rundown of Def Leppard's Phil Collen recently where he mentions that the album he was touring at the time was recorded completely on Guitar Rig 4. Obviously other work went on after that, but simple software gives professional results.

Mind you if you consider their biggest album, Hysteria ..... that was recorded by putting the guitars into  Rockman headphone practice boxs and then putting some EQ from an SSL channel strip. No real amps or speakers and that was back in 1986.  All the real amps like Marshalls used when Mutt recorded AC DC were rejected as "not radio sounding enough" I think the sound they achieved was perfect for the time, maybe not now but it certainly worked for that radio friendly rock sound

I've actually recorded more session keys and bass than I have guitar, simply cos there's been more demand for it. When I have been on guitar it was generally a Fender Twin as that could do very good clean and dirty. For metal it was ENGL something or other and AXEFX but I didn't get involved in that. 

There was one time I was asked to play a country rock solo on an American label artist who had tracked the album at Muscle Shoals but wanted me to replace the solo that was there. All I had to hand was a Boss GT10 and my effort sounded terrible in comparison to the Tele and vintage amp the guy had used in the states. You know it's bad when the artist tactfully suggests moving on and maybe coming back to it later .... 

jpfamps

Danny1969 said:

hubobulous;1045393" said:

I watched a rig rundown of Def Leppard's Phil Collen recently where he mentions that the album he was touring at the time was recorded completely on Guitar Rig 4. Obviously other work went on after that, but simple software gives professional results.

Mind you if you consider their biggest album, Hysteria ..... that was recorded by putting the guitars into  Rockman headphone practice boxs and then putting some EQ from an SSL channel strip. No real amps or speakers and that was back in 1986.  All the real amps like Marshalls used when Mutt recorded AC DC were rejected as "not radio sounding enough" I think the sound they achieved was perfect for the time, maybe not now but it certainly worked for that radio friendly rock sound

Didn't they also track the individual guitar strings to separate tracks rather than playing chords?

I suppose you've got think up new ways to spend $4 million on recording an album, I mean you couldn't do it by simply playing the songs live in the studio.

Can't say I'm a huge fan of the 80's................

ThePrettyDamned

jpfamps;1052304" said:

Danny1969 said:

hubobulous;1045393" said:I watched a rig rundown of Def Leppard's Phil Collen recently where he mentions that the album he was touring at the time was recorded completely on Guitar Rig 4. Obviously other work went on after that, but simple software gives professional results.

Mind you if you consider their biggest album, Hysteria ..... that was recorded by putting the guitars into  Rockman headphone practice boxs and then putting some EQ from an SSL channel strip. No real amps or speakers and that was back in 1986.  All the real amps like Marshalls used when Mutt recorded AC DC were rejected as "not radio sounding enough" I think the sound they achieved was perfect for the time, maybe not now but it certainly worked for that radio friendly rock sound














Didn't they also track the individual guitar strings to separate tracks rather than playing chords?

I suppose you've got think up new ways to spend $4 million on recording an album, I mean you couldn't do it by simply playing the songs live in the studio.



Can't say I'm a huge fan of the 80's................

Yeah, I heard that.

Muse apparently recorded a song, time is running out maybe, in the same way.

Danny1969

The separate string thing story relates to the bridge of the title track Hysteria, the sus D into the C which is tracked separately rather than one guitar playing it as a sus chord like you would Live. What you have to remember is it was the era of new technology and raw guitar records weren't getting the radio play ..... it was all Janet Jackson and artist  using artificial everything programmed into the Fairlight and Sythclavier . Their game plan was to record an album full of guitar based tunes that could (and were) be played alongside Prince and Michael Jackson  

The big cost of the record was due to the time taken mainly, plus buying out Jim Steinman who was originally chosen by the record company to produce it ..... Rick lost his arm etc ..... the thing started in 83 and finished in 87 I think 

But that's all relitivley quick and cheap compared to GnR's Chinese Democracy

Nerine

There's a good interview with Mike Shipley who mixed Hysteria on Pensados Place. He talks about what it was like working with Mutt Lange on that record. Pretty mental stuff.

digitalscream

If you've got the time, here's an incredible thread over on GearSlutz where Michael Wagener and Bob St John weigh in on a discussion about Extreme's Pornograffiti, and Bob gives a huge amount of detail about the recording process for all the Extreme records.

https://www.gearslutz.com/board/high-end/16642-extreme-pornograffitti.html

One of the highlights was how Nuno desperately needed to get an idea down for a demo solo, so he plugged a pair of headphones into the mic jack of an old 4-track, and put that around one of those battery-powered Marshall micro-amps. That "demo" ended up on the album.

professorben

edenfield99 said:

thomasross20 said:

I must check out that Def Leppard album to hear what it sounds like. 

You don't need to listen to a Def Leppard album to know it sounds shite

I think it's the Manraze album not Def Leppard.

ChrisMusic

@Catthan ~ I think this is a good way to market yourself, without being too specific.  Leave that to conversations with the client.

From Tolis Zavaliaris:

"Tolis’s collection of guitars, amps and effects combined with his own technical versatility can cover and produce a wide array of styles, sounds and tones."

http://www.toliszavaliaris.com

for the rest of his session page:

http://www.toliszavaliaris.com/sessions/index.html

Catthan

Thanks @ChrisMusic

thomasross20

digitalscream;1053433" said:

If you've got the time, here's an incredible thread over on GearSlutz where Michael Wagener and Bob St John weigh in on a discussion about Extreme's Pornograffiti, and Bob gives a huge amount of detail about the recording process for all the Extreme records.

https://www.gearslutz.com/board/high-end/16642-extreme-pornograffitti.html



One of the highlights was how Nuno desperately needed to get an idea down for a demo solo, so he plugged a pair of headphones into the mic jack of an old 4-track, and put that around one of those battery-powered Marshall micro-amps. That "demo" ended up on the album.

Interesting reading but I'm not all the way through it. What solo is it you're talking about?

Danny.. I don't get onuch with teles but they can sound awesome!